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I would advise against using surveillance cameras, because they violate others' privacy. However, if you must, you can use hardware compatible with Frigate and upload it to whichever encrypted cloud server you wish.
That's a curious take. I'm keen to know your angle. If you are within range of my surveillance cameras, you're on my property and are not afforded any privacy. I don't care what happens out in the street, so I have none that cover the street. However, when it bleeds over onto my square, then I do care.
Certainly! My threat model is mainly against mass surveillance, so this is my view: If there is a surveillance camera recording in a place where there is reasonable expectation of having no strangers, I am mostly fine with that. As you mentioned, if it is only recording your own private property where no strangers are meant to be, that is your business.
However, if it is recording a space where there is reason to expect strangers to be there without violating private property (e.g. stores, doorsteps, sidewalks) that is not ok. Simply, I should not be in the crossfire of your surveillance. I don't know your intentions with the footage, and I don't know who else may have access to it. It shouldn't be my job to cover up just because you want to violate the public's right to privacy.
You can see this post of mine about my views on the expectation of privacy in public. I made it about a year ago, and I haven't read back over it, so it may be outdated or less refined than I'd prefer.
I am a huge advocate for the right to privacy, so I don't have any surveillance cameras of my own. When I have friends over, I want to lead by example and make my space a private space for them too. Instead of funding more surveillance, we should be funding stronger locks and better deterrents that don't violate human rights.
Well, that certainly is a different take than I'm used to. I sometimes fail to realize that most of the population live in fairly tight quarters, especially in housing developments, etc. Their coverage would entail an acre maybe a little more or a little less and even a doorbell cam has a pretty wide field of vision. So I could understand that concern. Where as, I have some acreage to mother hen. Barns, equipment, etc. and I have zero tolerance for a person who would walk onto my property and steal from me. I'll help a brother out as best I can, but if you steal from me that's going to get you in some troubled water.
Anyways, thanks for the explanation. Always down to be educated. Thanks for the link as well. I'll hit it in a bit.
you know that suit from A Scanner Darkly? I think about that suit a lot...
I guess a lot of cameras cover sidewalks and so. I have one pointing at my front door and one at my garage door and both show the sidewalk... I never gave much thought about it until I saw that article about Amazon's Ring cameras recording passerby faces and putting it into their database.
Huh. I guess I have gotten used to living in farming country. Not too many people out here walking, but that concern seems valid.
I share a similar stance on general street surveillance by the likes of Ring. But on the flip side I understand that people may want to extend the scope of security cameras onto the street due to vehicle vandalism for example, so I make sure to smile my sweet smile when I notice them.
Thanks to @Charger8232@lemmy.ml & @irmadlad@lemmyis.fun for yet another perfect example of what I love about Fediverse, this is why it's so much better than "the other place"