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So, roughly a little less than 2% of the country protested. Awesome.
It's pretty clear after attempt number 3 that the vast majority of Americans either support trump, or just really don't give a shit about any of this
Majority of Americans can't afford to take a day off.
And how much do they think they'll be able to afford once the cheeto is done with his changes?
It was on a saturday! There was fewer events in fewer cities than the first run, and still managed about the same turn out.
Approximately 53 million Americans work weekends. And around 8.48 million have more than one job.
I turned out, but I had friends that couldn't.
Exactly. The current turnout is a good sample of the overall population, but we won't see truly huge numbers until there's a general strike.
This made me imagine working 2 jobs on a Saturday and now I am depressed.
If you know a business open on the weekend, that's someone who couldn't take a day off from work. I work Saturday/Sundays on my gig. Fully against Trump, just can't take a 2.5 hour bus ride one way and a day off of my job to attend. That money is going towards paying for the healthcare and rent of my family.
Edit: Sorry that I have a job to provide my family PugJesus. I know you hate that I have a life outside of Lemmy, unlike you.
This is such an insanely stupid and ignorant comment. Maybe don't weigh in on topics you know nothing about.
Change can be encited with a small group of people, and this was not a small group of people. Public opinion is the only weapon we can weild right now, and it's emphatically working as Trump's approval ratings are plummeting.
Discounting our success publicly is exactly what Trump does. If you're going to do his work for him, you should at least get paid - go apply to OANN.
Uh huh
And how much exactly changed after the previous no kings protests, after which people like you made the exact same claims?
Yeah, absolutely nothing
And what changes after the previous one?
Nothing
What has this protest done so far? Well it did something, it made trump release this really weird AI video of him shit bombing US citizens... Not sure if anyone else had this in their bingo cards, but alas, the times we live in.
I'm not saying that at some point a protest might make a difference, but I'd you look at how people protest world wide and how they protest in the US, there is a very marked difference.
If you want to make change with a smaller group, that's fine if you continuously protest, all day, every day, and have more and more people join in. You could also go the violent way (would not recommend) and out the country in turmoil and chaos.
The US, however, has had pretty much three major protests.
Three
And what showed up was around 2% ish of the population.
It's not enough and it won't make a difference. Show up with 30 million people and you EILL get attention. This, however, is the third attempt and it is yet again too little, too late.
Wanna protest again? Trump government doesn't care. They have the propaganda channel setup to lie about the protests. As far as maga supporters are concerned, these people are terrorists that should be shot. That didn't change.
Unless you have a thousand days of protest planned as a follow-up to this one, this latest protest won't do shit
My options were because I work Saturdays, where the closest protest is over 90 miles away:
So I lose our on $138 dollars to help pay rent/food, and then spend $90+ dollars on the motel and food, to attend the protest.
If there was one in my hillbilly area I'd consider it before wondering if the redneck dipshits might shoot a chubby queer.
I get it, this is a very pragmatic response. The problem, however, is that if everyone has this response (and let's face it, it's America, most people are so fucked over with their jobs, income, medical expenses, etc that they're all in your same boat) that these protests will never swell to a tipping point.
Meanwhile maga turns more powerful every day and son enough they'll be able to stop protesting altogether. Them it will be too late and then what will you do, especially being a person somewhere on the LGBT line?
I get it, you make a whole lotta sense and under any other circumstances I'd say that you're totally right but I think it's hard not to feel like we're in Germany 1939, and there are rapidly shrinking amounts of options left to stop this before the jailing of LGBT "for their own protection or some other bullshit" will start
Many Europeans genuinely do not understand the sheer size of our country. And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to everything else they seem to not understand about our shitty culture that's been glorified and lied about on TV for generations.
The fact I can cross that via a bus is pretty nice. But the fact I don't own a car nor have to drive (never needed to, the buses here are pretty decent and have decent rates), does impact me for a lot of events. I've been able to attend some about a mayor in my area when he falsely accused a homeless shelter of a gunshot wound, but the police officer who said it faked it all for attention.
So the mayor made shit up, about something that was made up. A protest was organized in front of city hall, and it was very close to a bus stop for me. Attended, hung out with some organizers and helped sign some ballot initiatives. Overall a decent time telling a Republican mayor to fuck off.
Edit: Sorry that I have a job to provide my family PugJesus. I know you hate that I have a life outside of Lemmy, unlike you.
I think that's actually a lot. It's around 4.5% of voters. Just under half of voters voted from Trump, although some of them may have changed their minds since the election. There are some people who aren't into demonstrating on the streets. There is always some percentage of people with something else going on. For example, my teenagers didn't go because they had both run grueling races yesterday morning. My wife and I were at risk of being late because we went to a neighboring city yesterday morning to watch our kids race and because the roads and bus system were overwhelmed with people going to the demonstration and to the Badgers game, but when we arrived thousands of people were still pouring onto East Wash (the main road the Square).
That was just our life. I'm sure someone else's kid had a big race or performance that did conflict, or their parent just received a bad medical diagnosis, or they had to work, or they're in the middle of moving house. 4.5% of voters getting out and marching is a lot.
Paraphrasing Susan Sontag, 10% of people are decent, 10% evil and the other 80% don't really give a shit and juat go along with whatever...
80% of the people just want to live life, enjoy their friends and family. That too is decent.
I'd say that 10% is the hero that is an activist, that is Willie to risk themselves for the betterment of everyone else