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As Ireland's $1,500-a-month basic income pilot program for creatives nears its end in February, officials have to answer a simple question: Is it worth it?

With four months to go, they say the answer is yes.

Earlier this month, Ireland's government announced its 2026 budget, which includes "a successor to the pilot Basic Income Scheme for the Arts to begin next year" among its expenditures.

Ireland is just one of many places experimenting with guaranteed basic income programs, which provide recurring, unrestricted payments to people in a certain demographic. These programs differ from a universal basic income, which would provide payments for an entire population.

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[–] Ithorian@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I just dont get this thing with "artists", if you cant get people to buy your art, buy your albuns, buy a ticket to your show then you are not an artist, you are just an entertainer of yourself! If my company cant sell their product will the government give us 1500£ too? its the same thing, if my product is shit i wont sell, period

[–] webp@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So an artists worth is determined by external, financial factors? What?

[–] Ithorian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

is determined by results! If you have a song and no one want to ear it are you an artist?

[–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, there are plenty of famous artists who only became famous after they died. Contemporary popularity doesn't guarantee historic/cultural impact.

I'm not aware of the specific requirements of this program, but Iteland also has a case for cultural preservation, particularly with works in the Irish language, which may not have the international appeal necessary to make a good profit but are important for intrinsic reasons to Ireland.

There's also the case to be made that in order to become a great artist, you must first be a bad artist - and there aren't that many jobs for internships/apprenticeships in the arts, especially as some of the more "basic" jobs (cheap graphic arts, copywriters, muzak, etc.) are snapped up by AI.

I think there is an interesting discussion to be had about what an artist must have in order to qualify for something like this. I would also be concerned with "antiestablishment" works possibly being excluded.

[–] Ithorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

think there is an interesting discussion to be had about what an artist must have in order to qualify for something like this.

Yes, thats just my point, i agree in some help if, and only if, the artist do some kind of work around their comunity or some pro bono kind of jobs, i dont know how to explain it exactly. But i cant agree pay to an artist that is trying to sell millions of records or have millions of viewers of any kind, because thats not art, its a product he/she is selling. Its and interesting debate indeed

[–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago

I suppose you could do it a la "The Dispossesed" where you spend one day/week doing community service

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