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[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Canada, Russia, Belarus and China are the major players in potash mining and production. The US doesn't mine or produce any in a substantial number. The US has huge import tariffs on China, and can't currently buy from either Russia or Belarus.

Canada needs to put a 50-70% export tariff on potash. That would crush US farming.

If Trump wants to play, let's burn them to the ground. Here is your 51st state you cunt.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is idiotic. You are literally suggesting Canada follows Trump example and try to use tariffs to hurt another country.

Canadian potash producers have no reason to be punished with tariffs.

Tariffs damage your own country. Not the enemy. This is literally what you're complaining about.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Tariffs damage your own country. Not the enemy.

Read what I said. I said EXPORT tariffs. These are taxed at the border, by Canada, to the buyer exporting - IE; the farmers and supply chain in the US. These aren't like Trump's import tariffs but they have the same effect to Americans.

The only effect this would have on Canada is MAYBE some reduced sales, but US farmers don't have a choice with this product. They literally can't buy it from anywhere else in the numbers they need.

And yes, the design would be to cause even further damage to US farming because of Trump. It's a huge power play Canada has. They want to reduce our added tax on potash? They need to drop or reduce tariffs on their end.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Buyers import. Sellers export. Your example does not make logical sense.

[–] DoubleHackEchstacy@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

as he said "EXPORT tariffs. These are taxed at the border, by Canada, to the buyer exporting", which would be those farmers

[–] reptar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Wait, why not?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can have sensible tariffs that do the intended job of encouraging a domestic market, but you need to have both supply and demand available domestically.

For example, Canada has an import tariff on milk and other dairy because we produce and consume our own dairy products. If some giant US milk conglomerate could start imprint on the cheap it would legitimately harm the Canadian economy.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Its not universally true that tariffs harm your own country.

If the US really is dependent on a specific thing from a specific country then that country can absolutely harm the US by applying a tariff to it.