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Independent Senator Bernie Sanders floated Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a potential presidential candidate in the 2028 elections, saying that even though it's "her decision to make," she is a "very, very good politician."

Speaking to Axios, Sanders said that he has been "out on the streets with her" and noticed how she responds when people come up to her. "It's so incredibly genuine and open."

Ocasio-Cortez is seemingly positioning herself to run for higher office, whether it is challenging Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for his seat or to make a run for president.

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[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm a big fan of AOC, but I think I'd rather her wait until 2032. The next presidency (if there even is one) is going to be a fucking shitshow trying to clean up Trump's messes. I'd rather her get the opportunity to be a "get shit done" President, instead of having to spend all her time rooting out Trump's traitors in the government while getting villainized in the media.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

That is based.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Are you assuming the GOP win again in 2028? If a Dem wins in 2028, and they actually did an okay job they'd run again, and I doubt she'd oppose that. So realistically, it's either 2028 or 2036 if we assume the GOP won't win in 2028.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm hoping a Dem will win, but they are going to have to do some "distasteful" stuff to fix the government, which means people may want them out after 1 term.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Distasteful shit like what? Funding ICE? Bombing a dozen countries in the middle east? Cutting social security?

Or did you mean things that are distasteful to people who would never vote democrat, but wildly popular among potential democrat voters like prosecuting Trump and as many republicans as possible, sending the FCC after rightwing media, ordering the military to provide healthcare to women, cutting all aid to Israel, etc.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Distasteful like: "Use SCOTUS' ruling on the president having unlimited powers to immediately arrest or remove corrupt MAGA officials and judges".

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Don't forget remove at the very least, Gorsuch from SCOTUS from being a corrupt stolen seat (even if Gorsuch himself hasn't been corrupt while seated, but I don't know), and removing Thomas who is corrupt as fuck by using that power.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The latter. But extreme measures: I also don't think we have time to wade through legal processes and spend years in court before the country collapses. The next president needs to be prepared to, Day 1, declare a state of emergency and send Clarence Thomas to Guantanamo Bay, for example. (Well not literally day 1 because first they need to find and evict all the Trump loyalists and potential assassins in the executive branch, at least at the upper levels, so that they are even able to issue such an order -- but you get the idea).

That's a big overreach of executive power that many people will not be comfortable with, and history may not look fondly upon it...or maybe it will, if it proves necessary to save us from Trump's damage.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you genuinely believe that enacting your constituents will, especially if you can do it while violating as many norms as possible is unpopular with those constituents?

Second question: How many times have you watched the entirety of Westwing?

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think most constituents would be happy with a dictatorship? Trump is doing horrible things, but the way in which he does them is horrible as well. But I do think fighting fire with fire is necessary, considering how close we are to collapse.

I haven't seen West Wing. Heard good things though

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is not a meaningful number of potential dem voters who will stop voting dem because the billionaires, the politicians they bought, and brown shirts were treated unfairly. The are a lot more who will vote when they see the government enacting their interests.

A lot of Obama staffers were West Wing fans. They were shocked when voters didn't reward them for following rules, trying to compromise, and giving republicans half the discretionary budget in the name of of civility.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah that's fair. "Reaching across the aisle" is basically unvalued in this post-Gingrich world.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, calculated avoidance is a good strategy