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[โ€“] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

One comment I saw eons ago explained it, it went something like this

"Imagine theres a group called Team-No-Bad-Guy. They gather to yell to stop people doing bad guy things. You don't like those people that they yell at, but you don't like the non-yelling methods Team-No-Bad-Guy uses sometimes. Team-No-Bad-Guy hears you say this and calls you a bad guy and begin yelling at you. You realize that they can call anyone bad guys and you wonder how things would be for you after the big bad guys were gone."

[โ€“] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

This makes a lot of sense when talking about centralized organizations and movements like the French or Bolshevik revolution. There is a text called something like "why the Paris commune abolished the guillotine and so should we" describing how the guillotine was more and more used against anyone differing from "party line". Similar stories about Russia and for example Kronstadt.

A decentralized organization like antifa on the other hand doesn't have a party line. They can't gain domination over a state. There are individual groups that go rogue but they have no guillotine nor state apparatus and they are a minority within antifa