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“The United States, just months before its 250th birthday as the world’s leading democracy, has tipped over the edge into authoritarianism and fascism,” Garrett Graff, the American historian and author, wrote in August. “In the end, faster than I imagined possible, it did happen here.”

One awakes to new horrors each day. And it is difficult to grasp – and painful to realize – just how far gone we are, and how quickly it has happened.

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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At this point the rest of the world has to assume that everything is A-OK with America, and this is the America we need to plan to deal with going forward.

The American people (as a whole) have given us no sign that they are anything more than mildly concerned about the situation.

Please spare me the "but protests" and "I have a family" BS. The last No Kings should have been, far and away, the biggest protest in US history. It was not even close. Almost triple the amount of people came out, for (can you believe it) Earth Day in 1970.

The US is so, so far from where they need to be to stop this, and I'm 100% positive that when people start throwing their lives at this problem, it will be far too late.

Yeah..... Things are not great for America, but it's unfortunately a bigger problem than that. Democracy in general is being put against the ropes around the world, and isn't putting up much of a fight.

Pretty much every democratic nation with a large economy has been flirting with fascist the last 10 years, America is just being the trail blazer. Democracy has become too entangled with capital. Instead of creating boundaries and limitations upon the predation of capitalism, we've largely just traded social security and stability for economic exploitation.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How easy it is for you to provide insight from outside the prison.

[–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I'll second this. Some of us do "have a family" and we are just trying to get out like it's 1940 France...

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, because you can't possibly understand, recognize and prepare yourself for fascism unless it's actively in your country.

Woe is you.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh is that what you were doing? It looked an awful lot like you just complaining as the voice of not only Canada but also the world about a situation you're a third party observer to.

I certainly hope you never have to deal with what the US is facing, but I seriously doubt you guys will fair any better.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Am I a third party observer? Really?

Come on now. If you want to have a debate, do better than that.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want or need to debate you and if you aren't living in America you're a third party?

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It might not be my government, but your president has openly threatened my sovereignty and is currently engaged in economic and psychological warfare against my country.

I am not a third party to American fascism any more than Ukraine is a third party to Russian authoritarianism.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well that is certainly a take. So since you're involved how come you aren't doing anything? I have to assume you're ok with it. And don't bother with the excuses like "I have a family".

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

God you guys really are the same. It gets harder to feel sorry for you every day honestly.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Welp since we're a lost cause, we're all the same, we're complacent, we're ok with what's happening etc etc etc then you can stop giving your opinion in these types of threads where the goal is to point out how superior YOU are because you'd never let this happen. Just stop commenting, bud!

I can't believe I'm thinking of nixing lemmy.ca because honestly y'all have been giving .ml vibes for a while.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago

No, I'll give my opinion wherever I want, thanks though!

[–] forks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not everyone at Earth Day was protesting, though. The last No Kings protest was the largest number of protesters in US history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

The George Flloyd protests were bigger and not just a single day. I'd put that as more active than No Kings on the single day. Regardless, this shouldn't even be a debate. It should be unequivocal that protests should be larger and more frequent than anything in American history. Anything short of that is a failure.