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Lmao, what? This is a really dumb take and sounds like a desperate maga, tbh. They didn't like hearing speeches from dems. Just go for a walk with the rest of the protestors.
The Democrats are a rich people party too. They're not your friends, they're just the lesser evil.
Right now, they're not nazis. That's all I care about. We need anyone against nazis on our side. No one should be dividing anyone up, unless you're dividing the nazi regime.
The article here doesn't look to me to be advocating dividing people up, but rather making sure the movement is not controlled by the Democrats. Democrats should be part of it, not in charge of it.
I understand where you are coming from and agree with the sentiment, but at the end of the day either they need to form a party and quickly, as if it isn't all together by August 2026 it has no hope of doing anything if there actually are fair & free elections some how, or they all have to vote out Democrats they don't like and vote in new ones who fit their views better using the already established democrat committees.
States like Florida require you to have at least 1% vote in the last election and a committee with 50 board members set up and in place with the rules of how you would perform your primary and what not. Which is why they would have to establish it all and have it in place and ultimately surrender the Governor seat of Florida to the Republicans in the 2026 election to ensure they could exist on the ballot in 2028 for a presidential candidate. So it's either organize quickly, or just rework what's there.
No Kings is apolitical except for the idea that autocracy/royalty is un-American. As soon as you put it into a political box it will alienate a bunch of people.
you are the one dividing people up, duh
The Dems is 2025 are the same Dems that voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976.
Meanwhile, the GOP is ready to hang Ronald Reagan as a woke Liberal.
The Dems in 2025 are the people who lost the presidency to the most incompetent man in the world. Twice. I do not think it's smart to trust them to be the stewards of what seems to be shaping up to be the primary resistance movement.
As much as I hate the liberal purity test culture, you've hit the nail on the head. As much as the movement should use any and all available allies, people really shouldn't forget this point when the smoke settles
I only see right wingers demanding support for policy that is both immoral and electorally dumb complaining about "liberal purity tests".
You sure about that? It seems like you're doing exactly that
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It would help if you got more specific; name the policy in question.
Most recent complaint about purity tests and circular firing squads I've seen was over the purity test of not being a warcriminal with a totemkomf tattood on your chest. Before that it was trying to silence anyone trying to stop the dems from choosing wildly unpopular policy, that ultimately got Trump elected.
Dems in 2025 are first term trump Republicans.
there’s the targeted message of the month!
There is no lesser evil, only evil.
Stupid is as stupid does
Liberal acceptance of a lesser evil allows a slightly larger evil with each increment has led to someone to the likes of trump occupying the White House. Your less evil has resulted in incremental fascism
That is so fucking stupid.
A lesser evil can also lead to less evil incrementally as progress is made. What you're arguing for is to say that people should take a lesser evil and then take EVEN LESS evil than that. Your insistence on perfection will kill people.
I get that you want to be sanctimonious, but saving one person now is better than saving two people tomorrow, because it has the potential to also save two people tomorrow.
Watch as I use your same logic against you: Your no evil strategy resulted in Trump, and those Palestinians are grateful that you exterminated them faster. Nice going!
See how stupid that is?
There has been no progress made. The only difference is Democrats keep shifting to the right with Republicans. In case you don't know turning into first-term Trump Republicans is not progress
Cool, you didn't listen. You are the average ML. You should feel proud to add this to your list of accomplishments.
I don't believe you are capable of arguing in good faith, right off the bat you tried to accuse me of personal attacks, but that's all that you've done.
I'm sorry you feel that way. You are still a sanctimonious bystander. You can pretend you did the right thing while you watch people die and feel superior about it. It is certainly a way to sleep at night.
Democrats don't care about people dying, they just don't want to hear about it when it happens. They claim to be protecting the marginalized, who remain marginalized regardless which shade of fascism controls the halls of government, while supporting the systems that keep them marginalized. They put BLM in their profiles while demanding socialists and communists support the people that created the need for orgs like BLM to exist. We demanded the defending of ICE while Biden expanded the entire system, increasing federal funding to their highest levels, expanded detention centers, and militarized ICE. It wasn't until Trump started utilizing that expansion that liberals had an issue with it.
You can make broad generalizations like that, and, generally, there is some truth to it. But that doesn't defend YOUR actions. YOU are doing nothing to fix this. That is the point.
I get that other people are also not doing enough, that's a legitimate criticism, but it is not a defense, and it is a deflection when people point out your actions and you point that out.
If you think no evil is better than less evil, I agree with that. But where is your no evil? You cannot make effective change by watching people die because your principles wouldn't let you choose anything other than no evil, because... That isn't a no evil choice?
We have solutions but Dems fight us tooth and nail to protect the status quo and the privileges it affords them
Yes, but... Why aren't they implemented? You can argue that the Dems fight you, but you're wasting energy here fighting people that aren't Dems. You haven't given those solutions, you haven't pushed for changes on the solutions given here. What's the point?
Liberal solutions are reform which doesn't work.
Not a solution. Not a change to a proposed solution.
Do you understand yet why I find you to be a bystander?
We need rich people to fund the rebellion! Duh.
It’s just the new ML plan. Haven’t you noticed how they all criticize the dems—but never Trump? Have you ever heard one of them criticize Trump in regard to Gaza? Have you ever heard them criticize any right wing American? I can’t recall that happening.
ML love MAGA.
Honestly this 100% rings true in my experience ^
When we do criticize Republicans liberals think we are one of them.
Give me an example of how you would criticize a republican in a way that would make me think you’re a republican.
I expect you do give a non-answer, change the topic, and make person insults. Will I be right?
That's not what I said, I said. When liberals hear leftists, socialist and communists criticizing Republican, you assume that we are one of you and simply agree. So you think you're only hearing us criticize one side, Democrats, because that's the only ones you're listening to.
I don’t know about anybody else but when I hear you talking I know it’s just to crush the west at any cost, and nothing you say can truly be trusted.
I only read the first paragraph. It sounded incredibly disingenuous. These rallies are impactful because of the turnout.
Without the democratic organization, it would not be remotely as impactful. Think that is exactly what the author of this article wants.
Also the difference between a democratic backed Indivisible group vs decentralized 50501. Indivisible brings a lot more people to protest.
I’ve never even heard of 50501. So that’s exactly what they want.