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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fucking ribbon menus can eat my salty ass. Why does everything take up so much God damn real estate on my screen? I've got work to do!

Take Slack, as an example. Anyone gotten the UI update? Christ on a cock, it's BAD. Hope you use slack full-screen because you're gonna need that to see the actual chat/conversations area. They added another sidebar now. That's 3 sidebars stacked up, and only 1 of them is even useful ( channels ) . Who is out there using so many workspaces, that they need a sidebar? Why does a sidebar need a sidebar sidebar?

Why do all my office and CAD programs take up the entire top 5th of my screen with menus?

Oh, you wanted to actually read that email? Damn sorry we only gave you less than half the screen to do that on, in outlook. But the sidebars are super important you see!

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can hide ribbon menu afaik by double clicking on any tap. I’m sure least MS Office support it.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but the whole UI is designed to use the ribbon so

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I see.

So, is there a better alternative to ribbons?

I am a developer and I am genuinely interested to know if there’s a better way to make frequently used buttons accessible.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Menus are a simple, elegant and time effective way of organizing a complex GUI

I think what killed menus are all the people who can't fucking read.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I had no issues with the style before ribbons.

Best way I can put it is by comparing the CAD programs I use. Go look up (PC not Mac) screenshots of Autocad2023 versus Rhino7. I prefer Rhino7, and it's everything to do with how tools are organized, nothing to do with the massive color differences, or command prompt location. Of course, both are highly customizable.

I also really like Photoshop's layout, and Blender in theory, bit not in practice (idk why, maybe just too many things overall everywhere).

I concede the issue here is that I use programs that are very visual based, so when I switch to primarily text programs, the lack of real-estate is very frustrating. I doubt that I am alone in this however, the overall population is admittedly increasingly visual.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm 100% with you on all of this! Just give me a classic windows menu at the top. I don't want any ribbons, side bars, hovering bullshit that covers what I'm working on.. Everything should have a keyboard shortcut. Everything should have visibility options.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

give me back my computer screen!

[–] valen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Control key shortcuts.