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Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help.::Pedestrian automatic emergency braking (AEB), which may become mandatory on U.S. cars in the future, tends to not perform well in the dark.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I know I am part of the problem, but the number of people walking around in dark colors and dark jackets at night baffles me. Bonus points if they are jaywalking because they have the right of way.

Combine that with spending any time after sunset either partially blind from super bright LEDs or fully blind from high beams and yeah. Constantly having to drive defensively and try to spot potential hazards a mile ahead in the brief window of just being partially blinded.

So I am all for some thermals I can glance at

My genuine favorite is a motorcyclist who lives out near my ex. Lights off more often than not and he has jet black leathers and helmet and bike

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

A pedantic point from me here, but it's not 'jaywalking' if you have the right of way. It's only jaywalking if it's against regulations.

Still endangering yourself to trust drivers to stop at night I agree, right of way or not.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's pretty real where I live. Pedestrians can get fined if they are being actively dangerous with it (eg stepping out from behind obstruction without making sure it's safe to do so), and the fault can be actually theirs if they cross outside a "safe" location.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do people still get fined for jaywalking in the likes of NY?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Sure, but, as to be expected, it’s more of an avenue for racial profiling than anything else

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/27/jaywalking-while-black-final-2019-numbers-show-race-based-nypd-crackdown-continues

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just because its origin was from propaganda doesn't make it not real. There are actual laws against Jay Walking, you can be charged and fined for it.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

With good reason - predictability.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

AFAIK the law here in Ontario is that pedestrians can cross mid-block on a non-controlled-access-highway (ie a regular road not expressway) as long as any oncoming vehicles have plentiful space to safely come to a complete stop. You only lose the right-of-way as a pedestrian if you're doing something that forces drivers to make emergency manoeuvres.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you cannot drive safely around pedestrians in normal street clothes, you should not be driving. You are the one bringing a lethal machine into the equation, they're just out living.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then please enlighten me as to how you manipulate the laws of physics to increase the reflectivity of clothing while your night vision is impaired by all the headlights at face level angles too far to the left?

Defensive driving is acknowledging problems and trying to mitigate them. Stupidity is pretending there isn't one

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Drive slower, or walk yourself if you can't see well enough to drive.

[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Sure but people can be a little more sensible to think not to dress as a fucking ninja at night and expect to be seen?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You clearly have never driven at night.

Edit: Also, the idiot wearing dark clothes walking into a road at night will still be just as dead whether the driver is considered culpable or not.

As a motorcyclist of 30+ years, this is a rule you either learn early or pay the price.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 years ago

I nearly killed a group of people one night.

Full on slamming of brakes and trying to not have another sort of accident.

Roughly 3am, a major major highway, and a group of people decides to dash across.

Dark clothing. Crossed between where any lights were.

Everyone involved was very lucky in that moment.

[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I wanted to bring this up, I'm glad others also see it. (Or rather don't? :p)