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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

As if workers give a shit about customers.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would be an improvement actually, because the customers of these companies are not users, they are other companies looking to advertise or buy users personal data. The users of for profit social media are in fact the product, not the customers.

[–] erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Great counterpoint. This is what Reddit has been missing for the last 6-8 years: actual thought instead of regurgitation.

[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Workers don’t give a shit about customers because that’s how the incentive system is set up. Give workers the profits, you give them a good reason to give a shit about how clients feel.

[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

As well as ensuring those profits will keep flowing through their retirement, and you get the long term planning incentive.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm reminded by that guy on TikTok

"You just lost a customer"

"Good"

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You skipped over the part where he says "You think I own this business? You think I own IKEA?" implying he would care if he actually had any skin in the game which he would if his job operated as a worker co-op.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Capitalism is a system of capital accumulation with the people who own the means of production hiring workers to operate them. Co-ops are a market economy, but they're demonstrably not capitalism because capital is distributed fairly amongst the workers doing the work. Learn the difference between markets and capitalism.

[–] Neuropotpie@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Co-ops can be capitalistic and are capable of functioning under capitalism, but they would also work much the same under any market economy. Decisions and would be profits are democratized/socialized.

[–] ralC@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Unsurprisingly, those who manage their own small business and aren't at mercy of a giant corporation do. So...🙄