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I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 224 points 1 year ago (5 children)

See the problem is that you let a display device connect to the internet

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yep - this. I absolutely abhor "smart" TVs for just this reason.

But, even lack of internet sometimes isn't enough. I recently, and inadvertently, left the wireless adapter on my TV enabled, after having to temporarily join it to my wireless for a firmware update (digital TV tuning needed updating for my region). After I was done, I cleared the wireless config, but I didn't think to go into the other menu where you can entirely disable the wireless adapter.

Little did I realise that meant the TV started broadcasting its own SSID, for friggin' Apple Airplay or some other shit. I found this out when my 9yo daughter was suddenly exposed to some adult content for about 10 seconds. Best guess is a nearby neighbour mistook my TV for theirs.

I've obviously disabled the wireless adapter again, but this has been a terribly difficult lesson I've had to learn.

For anyone concerned, my daughter is OK. My wife had a good chat with her about it. She had considerably more talking down to do with me - I was ready to start knocking on doors, to have my own chat.

[–] NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I work in IT at a fitness center and we have TVs in front of the treadmills. They are not enterprise TVs, just standard Samsung TVs. Above the treadmills, we have a conference room. After setting up a conference room with wireless screen sharing, I found that all of the TV's below show up when trying to cast. Obviously I tried to disable them, but there is no way to do so outside of physically ripping out the antenna. I called support and everything. Why the fuck was that decision made

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah - I had to dig around in my Samsung to find it. Under Settings | Network | Expert there's a radio button labelled Wireless. Disabling that turns wireless off completely. Mine's a 65" Q60A QLED 4K bought in 2021. Same on my Samsung 43" in the bedroom, so seems fairly common across the models, at least in the Q range.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like the next conference you are going to have in that room is with the Supervisor or the CEO about either downgrading that shit and have everything wired instead, or physically ripping out the antenna is going to happen.

[–] NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lol it's a nonprofit, shit ain't gonna happen

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

honestly, whoever connected to your TV is probably used to their device being the first one to show up. i would blame the streaming protocol for not requiring one of those one-time pin thingys.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's absolutely a good point.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All new Roku devices do that, even if it’s not a Roku tv. Roku went from one of the best video devices to the worst in one fell swoop. Literally the only good off the shelf device is the Apple TV.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My Roku TV will be in a landfill before I allow it to send 1s and 0s through anything but the HDMI cord

[–] planetaryprotection@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How does it stream things/what's the point of a Roku if it's not connected to the Internet?

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

roku tv

roku manufacturers 🤓 📺 in addition to streaming devices

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like I'm explaining how you use a screen without touching it. Is this what it's like to be old?

You use HDMI. There are ports on the side of the device that allow video input from devices like computers and Xboxes. I use my computer and Xbox to watch Youtube and TV shows.

If you're asking why I have a smart TV instead of a dumb TV, that's because we live in 2023 and finding a TV without a wifi adapter is like finding a phone without a blighted notch

Ah, for some reason I thought you were referring to a Roku stick/box, not a smart TV, my mistake 👍.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will still be connected to the Internet via the HDMI cord.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'm unaware of any widely adopted use of HEC. Certainly none of the modern consoles use HEC, and I don't think my smart TV is compatible with it either

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like everything will be in a landfill before you allow it to send 1s and 0s through anything but the HDMI cord.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I let my Xbox send 1s and 0s through the ethernet cable

[–] phar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can get mini PCs for solo cheap now and just load Linux up on it. Check out Beelink brand. I have a couple and they've been great.

Edit: so, not solo

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer the Nvidia shield over Apple TV. It supports direct streaming of Dolby Vision/Atmos on Plex. Pretty sure the Apple TV is missing some key codecs.

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Infuse fills in the gaps. Don’t even need a plex server anymore (it works better imho)

[–] slinkyninja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the fault is with the people who make the TV. It’s not the customers fault that other people are evil.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's kinda both. Like, if I walk up to someone on the street who says they're gonna stab me, and I get stabbed, the fault is obviously on them for stabbing me, but at the same time I got exactly what he said I'd get

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My TV is connected to the Internet and doesn't do this. There's a setting to turn it off.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine doesn't have anything like this and is connected to the internet, no settings to change either. LG Oled

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I have an LG OLED too. There's a setting for recommended content, or something like that. I turned anything off that looked like it meant ads or tracking.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Connected a Samsung smart TV to my network when we first got it. The thing damn-near crashed my pi-hole asking for so many ad/tracking domains. Factory reset it later that same day. I think my % of requests blocked went from 15% to 68% in just the 3 hours or so the Smart TV was connected.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They started to wisen up and hard-coded dns requests to 8.8.8.8 to bypass dns ad blockers now. Heck, some apps like Netflix already do it for years now. If your router can transparently redirect all dns requests to your pi-hole, you should use that feature.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

or use the blocking feature of your firewall. Here’s Roku being persistent and ignoring my pihole. Firewalla for the win.