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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You know that America just... does this, right? No bill, no law... In fact it was the first to do this at all. It's why in crime shows they remove the battery (from phone where you still can, of course.)

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

No, the "Patriot" Act did authorize stuff like this in the US. There was also the "Freedom" Act, and generally this is all FISA stuff that has very low standards for what's allowed.

[–] AreYouNotEntertained@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is not legal for police to spy on citizens via their phone cameras in the US…

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Police, no. Homeland security? crickets

[–] Pips@lemmy.film 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Still no. Do they do it anyway? Probably, but that doesn't make it legal.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

If I do something, people find out about it, and I don’t get arrested, it’s defacto legal

[–] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

are they gonna get in trouble for doing it, even if the government finds out?

probably not, so it's practically legal; and that's kind of the only kind of legality that matters in this case

[–] angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

The movie citizen four did an excellent job detailing different ways a government (in this case the united states) can do this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenfour

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It would require a warrant signed by a judge with probable cause.

Wiretap warrants aren't easy.

[–] MrPozor@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

It will be like that in France as well. But once they have the tools, there will be abuse.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry for the late response, but remind me again how many warrants the FISA court has denied?

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