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[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 214 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Imagine if we had elected this beautiful bastard back in 2016.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] dwemthy@lemdro.id 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

*if Gore's win wasn't stolen by the supreme court

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I seethed for months over this. Months.

Boomers wonder why the younger generations seem to 'hate america'.

Well it's because of bullshit like this. Repugnicunts have hijacked democracy and its roots are in Nixon and we have been forced to grow up under the lie that we are free and represented by our politicians.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats did exactly the same to Bernie in 2016. Leaked emails confirm that the DNC actively conspired against Sanders.

And then Hillary was such a bad candidate that Trump won. Thank the DNC for that one.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Similar deal here in the UK with Corbyn, except he was already leader of the party. Destroyed by his own kind. Most politicians accept that the only way into office is to gain control of an existing party. I'm glad for Americans that Bernie Sanders still seems to have some mainstream credibility. Jeremy Corbyn was attacked so hard from all vested interests on all fronts that he has almost become a tragic meme, despite how exceptional he was/is as a figurehead.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

My parents tried to explain to me why Bush won instead of Gore, and my little kid brain was like "but he won though"

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That was my first ever presidential election vote, I was so excited to see someone with legit interest in saving the environment, full of hope for a new future. I remember how giddy it felt to step into the booth.

I lived in florida then, the entire state was thrown out by a legit conspiracy.

And it's jaded my vision of politics ever since.

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's a big reason why I think civil disobedience is making a comeback.

People are realizing the government doesn't exist for them; it exists for the ruling class. That's not how it should work and we don't have to play by the rules they make for us.

[–] Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Full of invasive species, Florida man, woman, fucking craziness all around with zero hope. I'm glad i wasn't born there.

[–] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Too bad the primary really was rigged

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep seeing people say this. where can I find more information on the subject?

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In November 2017, Brazile said in her book and related interviews that the Clinton campaign and the DNC had colluded 'unethically' by giving the Clinton campaign control over the DNC's personnel and press releases before the primary in return for funding to eliminate the DNC's remaining debt from 2012 campaign,

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#July_2016:_National_Convention_and_email_leaks

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need a national movement to take the primaries out of the hands of the parties and run them like regular elections. Even better would be rank choice voting so we are no longer stuck with the two choices the wealthy give us.

[–] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe a national movement for a viable third party.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tried and failed, over and over and over and over again, but sure, I'm sure it will end differently this time.

If we could get enough voter cooperation to replace one of the major parties, any strategy would work. If we can't then going third party is the worst possibile strategy.

[–] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things do change if people try.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, definitely. I'm not critiquing "optimism", just a particular strategy. There is no advantage that exists in a third party strategy that doesn't exist in a intra-party strategy, but there are a lot of disadvantages. Until we get rid of first-past-the-post elections, third parties can't overcome the spoiler effect.

[–] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fucking tell me about it, I was living in florida at the time

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago
[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

World would be so much better off

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Futuristic city meme

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago