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Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:22:05+00:00 ID:
kvb1a9zWe're looking to live in a city, or as close to one as possible. Beach or forest doesn't matter, but reasonable rail and roads links do. When I talk about the mainland, I mean mainland Europe - a major reason for moving is to be able to access the continent more easily by road or rail, to increase our travel options without increasing the amount of flying we have to do, so no disrespect to the islands.
As for why we're moving, in short, neither of us like England. I don't just mean politics, but the quality of life is... odd. I'm not sure if you've ever visited us, but there was a period where the only place we could reliably buy tomatoes was a local polish shop (which also reliably has better quality bread and cheese, for cheaper than most supermarkets, with more choice). The necessity of using a car is starting to strain, and we both miss cultural opportunities we found more plentiful in Europe. So we picked a few countries we both wanted to live in and Denmark was the top of our list to try first, but we still want to visit places like France or Austria. Being on Jutland means we're already a little closer to the rail or road links we'd use to visit those countries.
opgivende at 2024-03-17 17:43:13+00:00 ID:
kvb7epkIn that case, be careful how far north you go into Jutland. I take it you’re interested in the international trains – none of the cities further north than Kolding have trains to Hamburg at the moment so you’ll have to change. If you want to travel by train further on into mainland Europe, Hamburg is generally the hub, and as it is, the train travel time would be longer from Aarhus than from Copenhagen, as Copenhagen has a direct train. Copenhagen also has a night train to Berlin, which is handy if you want to go to Eastern Europe.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 18:04:25+00:00 ID:
kvb8nj5This sort of thing is why I asked the sub. When I Google travel to Hamburg, Copenhagen shows 6.5hrs with 1 change, Aarhus shows 5hrs with 3 changes. But travel to Kolding from Aarhus looks shorter than from Copenhagen, so it makes me wonder why there's no route from Aarhus to Kolding, then change to Hamburg?
opgivende at 2024-03-17 18:26:43+00:00 ID:
kvbcnr2Google isn’t great for intercity trains, IMO. Use bahn.de – it lets you know that a change in Kolding is indeed how you get from Aarhus to Hamburg.
sp668 at 2024-03-17 17:29:11+00:00 ID:
kvb2j9aWell if you're in Jutland you can from many places get to Hamburg in the same time or less than you can go to Copenhagen. Hamburg has everything CPH has and more. So yes, Jutland is more connected to the continent if you don't want to fly.
There's also an Airport in Billund that can take you most places in Europe (but CPH has a lot more overseas routes).
GreedyJeweler3862 at 2024-03-17 17:38:06+00:00 ID:
kvb4xw2Denmark is a lovely place to live. I’m originally from the Netherlands and moved to Denmark many years ago. From what you’re saying I wouldn’t immediately rule out Fyn or Sjælland. Both are very accessable when it comes to traveling to the rest of Europe. Maybe Sjælland a bit less, due to expensive bridge. When it comes to Fyn it doesn’t matter time or money wise whether you are in Odense or Aarhus. How big of a city do you want? Denmark isn’t that densely populated (especially Jutland and Fyn) compared to many other countries in Europe or the UK. So what Danes might call for a city might be considered a large town or small city in other countries. Aarhus has a really nice larger city vibe, without it feeling crowded. Odense also still feels like a bigger city, but not as big as Aarhus. If you want to go smaller I really like Vejle. It’s build in a valley, which makes it really beautiful, but it’s not as big as the other cities.
Personally I would maybe use 2-3 weeks and spend a couple of days in all the major cities and a couple of smaller ones. Rent some bikes, use public transport, just explore so you can feel the vibe of the city.
Remember that even though most Danes are fluent in English, not knowing Danish can make it really tough to find a job. This also depends on your field of course. It’s definitely easier to find something in Copenhagen or maybe Aarhus. Odense will already be tougher and the smaller you go the tougher it gets.
They are building a tunnel from Sjælland to Germany, which definitely makes the rest of Europe more accessible in the future, so I wouldn’t just immediately write off Copenhagen
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:56:27+00:00 ID:
kvb79mjThank you, that's all super helpful. Naturally we're going to visit beforehand and learn Danish. We might end up going and just not liking any of them, in which case we'll have to rethink, but that's the main reason for asking locals. Nobody has recommended Esbjerg for example!
GreedyJeweler3862 at 2024-03-17 18:06:40+00:00 ID:
kvb92n7I think we’re all trying to deny Esbjergs existence.