That shit piece of software is incompatible with every single operating system, it doesn't even work properly on windows.
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It's so obsessed with UX and negative space, even on a 4k monitor at full screen you still only get like 100 characters line width. It's a fucking joke.
Nothing in modern software design blows my mind more than the tendency to replace line-wrapping with truncation and ellipses. It's like designers couldn't get to sleep at night if there were any possibility of their layouts being variable height.
Why do people blame devs for enterprise software functionality? Those requirements are all driven by marketing / product management.
We've got a saying at work, "Manglement's gotta mangle."
It's how we refer to management's (who we refer to as manglement) decisions when they can't leave a functioning system alone without getting in there and breaking it.
I call them Rubber Duck Managers.
There’s an old story about a website designer finishing a site. But they knew the approval for the site would need to come from one specific manager. This particular manager was notorious for changing things just to be able to say they contributed. Nothing could ever pass over this manager’s desk without at least one revision, because the manager wanted to be able to say that they had a hand in the project. They weren’t ever content with just sitting back and going “yeah, looks good. Ship it as-is.”
So the designer got the site looking exactly how they wanted it. It was perfect… And then right before they sent it off to be approved, they added a banner of spinning rubber duck gifs at the very top of the page:
The manager sent back “yeah, just get rid of the damned ducks before the site goes live.” By giving the manager a big bright “this needs to be fixed” thing to change, the designer was able to get the site they actually wanted. So if you’re ever dealing with a manager like this, be sure to give them a figurative rubber duck to “fix”.
Ha. Reminds me of those spinny things you put above an infants crib.
I agree. Microsoft employees are not guilty of any microsoft issues. Anyone who used windows11 for any amount of time has very clear understanding that the devs have no idea what is going on.
I blame whoever gave public school kids tablets and chrome books instead of sending them to computer labs. Now all of society is paying because we only taught one generation of people how to use Windows.
Those kids are barely starting to graduate highschool or are only a few years out of it. It doesn't do any good blaming today's cs interns and juniors when Microsoft products have been shit for decades
“Those kids” have already graduated college and are in the workforce. Computer labs got removed from my local schools in the early 2010’s, which was a literal decade ago. The middle schoolers (at the time when the computer labs were removed) have bachelors degrees now.
I'm not sure whether TV Tropes warnings are expected here but, in case they are, you know, fair warning.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExecutiveMeddling
Lol I actually have this meme hanging in my cubicle at work. I'm a M365 admin.
Unrelated: is this community back? What happened to the migration to Lemmy.world. what about all the pissed off original subscribers?
Not exactly "back", more like "trying to act like nothing ever happened". Try !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone, it was made by/for the people who no longer trust the current moderators who caused the schism.
Also our 196 clone is better than the original :3
(Not OP) Thanks, will keep that in mind! Also, still out of the loop. Anyone have a quick TL;DR?
PS holy shit i sound like a fucking redditor
They tried to move to .world which is an instance known for bigotry and Transphobia specifically because they didn't like that Ada uses heavy handed moderation on bigots and fascists (which I deeply respect)
yeah they reopened it after realizing people aren't on board, which i think is cool
I mean nowadays its more like
It's starting to grow on me. There are some UX gripes that I have, but overall, it's not bad.
Sounds like the words of someone suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
I run both Slack and Teams. I find Teams are more rich for feature sets. Just the UX is terrible.
I can't open a PDF that's attached to a meeting invite
Weird. I can.
a 10 second warning is not a mercy i would bestow upon him
I was on a call at work and casually had task manager open because my work PC is a slow garbage. Teams was taking up over 1.1 GB of ram! Firefox with several tabs open was taking 2/3 of it. WTF?
Shit I quite like Teams which I of course have no choice but to use every at work. I’m aware some folk don’t like it, through these memes and their various variants, but what are the main gripes?
Can't speak for anyone else, but my personal gripes are the horrendous ux design, basically unusable keyboard shortcuts that cannot be customized, never being predictable with what devices it uses. On top of that, being a Linux user makes it even worse, mostly because it's not a native app, but some monstrous electron garbage.
It’s almost unusable for me and everyone I work with.
Takes several attempts to join a meeting and have audio and mic working and screen shares working,
freezes regularly for 30+ seconds at a time when interacting with anything in the ui (especially the mute button in calls),
sharing your screen takes several attempts to get it to work,
the calendar in it is rarely synced with outlook(maybe the new calendar in teams will work better?)
These are just the issues my coworkers and I get on a daily basis. It’s not even touching the ones that only happen a few times a week.
The only good thing I’ve experienced is the recorded meetings are shared quickly after the call ends.
What's so bad about Teams?
What isn't?
Gotta imagine he makes the call disconnect sound and runs then falls on his face.