this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2025
54 points (96.6% liked)

Android

28961 readers
84 users here now

DROID DOES

Welcome to the droidymcdroidface-iest, Lemmyest (Lemmiest), test, bestest, phoniest, pluckiest, snarkiest, and spiciest Android community on Lemmy (Do not respond)! Here you can participate in amazing discussions and events relating to all things Android.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules


1. All posts must be relevant to Android devices/operating system.


2. Posts cannot be illegal or NSFW material.


3. No spam, self promotion, or upvote farming. Sources engaging in these behavior will be added to the Blacklist.


4. Non-whitelisted bots will be banned.


5. Engage respectfully: Harassment, flamebaiting, bad faith engagement, or agenda posting will result in your posts being removed. Excessive violations will result in temporary or permanent ban, depending on severity.


6. Memes are not allowed to be posts, but are allowed in the comments.


7. Posts from clickbait sources are heavily discouraged. Please de-clickbait titles if it needs to be submitted.


8. Submission statements of any length composed of your own thoughts inside the post text field are mandatory for any microblog posts, and are optional but recommended for article/image/video posts.


Community Resources:


We are Android girls*,

In our Lemmy.world.

The back is plastic,

It's fantastic.

*Well, not just girls: people of all gender identities are welcomed here.


Our Partner Communities:

!android@lemmy.ml


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

In June, the GSMA responsible for RCS finalized the latest standard with the ability to delete a sent message, and Google Messages...

top 16 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] OmgItBurns@discuss.online 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Seeing as how text messages are often used as evidence of abuse, cheating, or other awful acts I struggle to see this as a good thing.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

I was thinking how often it's used for business purposes. (There's already case law about emojis)

[–] dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed, and you know they have a record of these deleted texts internally for their own reasons.

[–] zmrl@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Its supposed to be e2e encrypted messages but I'm skeptical about that too

[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's certainly an issue, but for me it was already quite useful for deleting unread obsolete messages (e.g. deleting "can you bring milk" after you realized that there still is some), or messages accidentally sent to the wrong person. I think limiting to a short time frame and/or only unread messages would solve most of the possible abuse.

[–] dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why not just reply "Oh we have milk!". Why is deleting messages the best course of action when you can just communicate that you were misinformed?

[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure you can do that, but it's more work for both parties assuming the message hasn't been read. I'm just saying that both Signal and WhatsApp have had this feature for quite some time now and it has come in handy for me a few times already.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I could have used this when I was drinking.

[–] dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I still drinking and I don't like this feature, ya said what ya said. Also anyone who cares keeps records.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well obviously you don't write mini novels attacking people you like because of some stupid tiny thing they may or may not have done when you're drunk, this would have helped me greatly back then.

[–] dudeami0@lemmy.dudeami.win 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drinking just lowers inhibition so you say what is on your mind. While the results of such might not be desirable, it is what you thought in that moment.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I agree with that, just some things should stay inside the head.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

I have an unpopular opinion in this it seems.

Like to me it's an obvious feature, the ability to delete after sending is standard on every other IM style tech out there. It makes sense RCS will have it as well.

Just from a comvienence point of view it would be amazing to have. Talked to them in person? OK I'll delete this since o longer needed. Sent the wrong item? I'll just delete it. Autocorrect fucked up and sent something atrocious to your significant other? Believe it or not, delete and try again.

Sure it could have issues with preserving court evidence but, they could also just screenshot or have something that logs messages.

Also looking at the implementation it looks like it's still going to show evidence that something was deleted much like how Facebook has it, where it says a message was deleted so it can still be used as this is where the evidence was, but they deleted it.

And judging by the fallback message shown, it's also entirely possible that it will be a setting much like how the RCS setting is, where you can toggle if it deletes or not.

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Note that the client having this possibility means nothing until all rcs operators and aggregators also implement this feature.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In practice, I'm sure this will just be a label that will go over messages on your preferred SMS app and Google Messages will be the only app that actually deletes them until they realize no one else is doing it

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It looks like that is how they're currently implementing it, they are sending to the providers as well but this is how they're doing it with the app itself currently. So you are correct if you're using anything that isn't Google messages currently it doesn't do anything

I'm expecting this technology to eventually evolve to have a setting where it detects if the person you're sending to is currently on a technology that supports it and will warn you, like how the RCS system currently Works