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Doesn't have to be ambitious or even ever released. Just curious to hear your ideas and techniques. Screenshots are welcome!

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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm working on an RTS too, there isn't too much to show yet.

The "inspiration" is supreme commander and other RTS being low on the complexity and planning aspects.

The approach I have seen in the industry is that people take AoE2 and starcraft as a baseline and then switch out or improve different elements. E.g. starcraft 2 massively improved unit movement and pathing. I think total biscuit tried to make a mod where resource gathering was "automated" and easier and more recently "battle aces" focuses more heavily on the skirmish aspect. Many opinions I have also heard boil down to "if you remove micro, you remove the game". And that's not wrong, I can certainly see the point and the skill differentiation between someone who can and someone who can't micro their units.

But what I want to see is all of things that people already do "in their mind", like picking a build order, certain defined "points" in their own "gameplan" that they decide "X units A Y units B is when I should attack", or "transition points" and steps, and to make all of that explicit.

MTG "deckbuilding" works the same way, players anticipate certain problems and situations and then they build their decks with specific setups in mind and situations that they want to reach, and if they reach those states, victory gets very very close.

Taking all of that into account, surely there are just "strategies" that work better than others and finding those is more interesting or at least equally interesting as micro to me, but basically no games give you any tools or help to actually do it. You basically have to take out pen and paper to write down what worked in your last game, what didn't.

What would a game look like that gave you ALL the planning tools and performance metrics?

To me, that's where the modern "big scale" RTS fail, or rather, why they don't interest me.


And also, once things are "perfectly" planned and prepared, there are always ways to introduce e.g. random failure into plan steps to keep players solving "micro" problems, they would just happen in a different place.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago

Last project I worked on is a Sonic-like game. Didn't get much done, just constant fiddling to get all the physics working.

Before that, was working on an RPG, which has a ton of fiddly menus I need to make...

Sadly, I tend to stop working on things during bouts of depression, and pick up something new later, so I've not really finished anything or even got to the point of making content...

I wish we could go back to the days when gamedev was happening on DeviantArt or Newgrounds and it was just a bunch of kids doing fun and slightly cringe stuff. ;_;

[–] Charzard4261@programming.dev 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been working on a online multiplayer simulator for the new(ish) card game Elestrals for a year now. It's Pokémon meets Yu-Gi-Oh with a bit of Greek mythology sprinkled in, with my favourite mechanic being that your health is your resource. You can blow it all on a power play or conserve your health and strike when you spot an opening.

It's almost done and I'm really proud of it. Obviously excluding the programmer art, the only thing left to implement in the engine is displaying stat changes client side and... The functionality for every card they've printed. No biggie lol.

The problem is they announced an official one and it really killed my motivation. That's still a problem I have yet to overcome 😅

[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Could you pivot to another game like One Piece TCG?

[–] Charzard4261@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It'd take a lot of work, but depending on how the tcg works I think I could.

The biggest hurdle to overcome would be figuring out how likely they are to sue me, lol.