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From the guy's own mouth.

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[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is nothing in this that reflects the title. It's nothing more than passive propaganda. They are relying on people to just read the title and not open the link.

What is actually said is:

And let me just end by saying that this reflects the political reality that nations are sovereign. Nations decide themselves, and Ukraine has of course the right to decide its own path. And it's up to Ukraine and NATO Allies to decide when Ukraine becomes a member. Russia cannot veto membership for any sovereign independent state in Europe.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The closest thing to the lie you wrote is the part where it says Putin demanded that NATO stop recognizing Ukraine as a sovereign country. So he's invading Ukraine because NATO didn't allow him to annex Ukraine Anschluss and annexation of Sudetenland style. And if you think that would help, remember that appeasing Putin over Georgia and, effectively, over Crimea and Donbass didn't do shit to stop his aggression.

Besides the document implies what was already obvious, which is that, before the war, Ukraine wasn't even going to be allowed into NATO any time soon, NATO countries just couldn't sign an agreement that would limit Ukraine's sovereignty.

[–] pindapinda@feddit.nl 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally nowhere in these remarks does it say "expansion" or "expansionism"...

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What he's saying is that Putin doesn't get to dictate which alliances sovereign nations can join.

[–] mephiska@artemis.camp 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tankies everywhere in this post lol

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For real. They really fucking love Putin too, it's pathetic.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Apparently leftism is when you support right-wing authoritarian capitalists lmao

[–] Actaeon@artemis.camp 2 points 2 years ago

It’s because this WorldNews community is hosted on lemmy.ml. There’s better alternatives on @lemmy.world and @kbin.social