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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So, this with a "P" for pregnant instead?

So, this with a "P" for pregnant?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

How to ensure an increase in maternal and fetal mortality thanks to people not wanting to be on a list. They’ll avoid seeking prenatal care because I’m sure the state will demand mandatory reporting by medical personnel.

This made me remember when my cousin explained he is required to report when he has a pregnant cow at his farm and the parallel made me shiver

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 112 points 2 days ago

The bill summary states that, if passed, Missouri would create a registry of every expecting mother in the state “who is at risk for seeking an abortion” starting July 1, 2026.

This is incredibly dystopian and taking page right out of Romania's hated dictator Ceaușescu in 1966. With Decree 770 it, as well as making any kind of birth control illegal also did the following on the population of Romania:

"To enforce the decree, society was strictly controlled. Contraceptives were removed from sale and all women were required to be monitored monthly by a gynecologist.[3]: 6 [better source needed] Any detected pregnancies were followed until birth. The secret police kept a close eye on hospital procedures."

source

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Women, you are not cattle. You are intelligent and capable. Don't believe Missouri.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The whole reason I'm conservative is because of my distrust of government. I can't understand why an Orwellian position of tracking pregnant women would be popular to anyone with conservative values. Even under the guise of protecting babies this is disgusting.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hopefully you no longer consider yourself a "conservative" because that party left you behind over a decade ago.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

And part of the reason I'm pro government assistance is that they pull this shit regardless so it may as well help some people sometimes

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

And lied about their fiscal conservatism since day one.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Missouri is a garbage state and shouldn't exist.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

But who will make it not exist?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 days ago (4 children)

People with vaginas - get your tubes tied if you can. I got mine tied a few years ago and recovery was only a few days with minimal pain. Insurance covered it. I'd rather never have children than die from trying.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

States like Texas are killing so many women with this bullshit... https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-maternal-mortality-analysis-methodology

but honestly, I gotta wonder what the fuck the docs are doing following orders that kill their patients. I get that texas is all about punishing anyone but they have a literal oath to do no harm. medical professionals keep letting women die due to texas's bullshit rules.

shame on the AMA for allowing it to continue.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or better yet, flee to a non-shithole country.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The thing is...

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh yes because immigrating to a different country is such an easy task

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

If you're pregnant, claim asylum.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get them removed instead. It's more effective and cuts your ovarian cancer risk in half

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But getting your tubes tied is reversible and we won't be in this mess forever (copium)

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Tubal ligations are generally not reversible. They're considered a permanent form of contraception and any doctor who performans them makes this clear to their patients.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I got my tubes yeeted the minute I could after Roe was overturned and my state began talking about a 6wk limit. No regrets, just anger for everyone who isn't in the same position in life as me and still has to worry about unwanted pregnancy.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago

P25 calls for a HIPAA removal of coverage for anything reproductive. No doubt for this, the commoditization of women. Well, the uterus really. The woman is just the pesky life support system attached to the uterus.

Don't be fooled by where Missouri appears to be on the map, it's part of the deep south.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

and what happens if you don't register

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd imagine you don't voluntarily get on this registry. It's not a gift registry

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

well what happens if you don’t register

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not designed to have women register themselves. What self-respecting woman would voluntarily report that they might get an abortion, in a state that is openly hostile to that?

Nope, the reporting would be done by nosy health care providers (and perhaps even neighbors, like in TX). Are you a woman of child-bearing age who has to go out of state unexpectedly? Someone might add you to this list. You know, just in case.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well if the votership has anything to do with it: something around 30 to 40% would happily volunteer that information.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They would volunteer that info on their neighbors, but not themselves. Why? Because the only moral abortions are their own.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Speculation: Probably it'll be mandatory by providers if you attend prenatal care. So it will result in some women avoiding prenatal care putting themselves and their unborn at risk.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm sure the doctors will be forced to put them on the list. No doctor visits for women until they determine whether the pregnancy is going to kill them or not, because they'll be fuckd the second the State finds out.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 10 points 2 days ago

you don't get pregnant, obviously

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

It won't stand.

Ours is a red state, but we voted down right to work, an abortion ban, and then voted to require a $15 minimum wage and paid sick leave.

We're not fascists. Just, apparently, a state that got fed up with Democrats' excuses.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, if there's no abortion ban, why the registry?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

For the same reason that, even where abortion is legal, there are a zillion regulations governing clinics: you can make things effectively illegal by adding as many regulatory hurdles as possible.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

We're not fascists

Sure thing.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

40% of you aren't fascists

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You can think that, but the overwhelming majority that voted against the state abortion ban would suggest you're wrong, but sure, keep swallowing everything your social media algorithm is telling you and don't give it any thought.

From where I'm sitting, voting in a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and voting down an abortion ban objectively means we Missourians have done more for leftist politics than Democrats in DC, where they just expect you all to eat excuses.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Noooo Missouri doesn't support fascism because we're fascists noooo it's because the libs are shit!!!!!!"

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's true.

We aren't and they are.

Yes yes the Democrats are the real fascists, yawn

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

🤦‍♂️

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Aaaand, will this be the reason Americans change anything? Probably not...