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[–] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've backslid into a pretty doomer mindset recently with everything going on, but this thread has helped refocus some of my perspective. A community like this is very nice, I appreciate you all. I'm gonna work on it.

Your chad levels are off the charts πŸ“ˆ

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out that "do what you can" doesn't even necessarily mean trying to prevent or impede climate change directly. It can also mean building community and providing comfort and protection from the worst effects of climate change to the people you care about.

Exactly, well said chad πŸ’ͺ

[–] YungOnions@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Doomerism is appealing because it tells you its ok not to bother and it speaks to the masochistic epistemology many of us are drawn to.

Reality is that it's like our clothes are slowly catching fire. We aren't getting away with just a singe at this point. We're currently looking at winding up naked in the hospital, but not like "medical coma" level if we do what we need to.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I’d classify myself as a β€œreluctant doomer”. I try to minimize my environmental impact and encourage others to do the same, but privately, I think we’re fucked. I act like my assumptions are wrong, though. I hope I am.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 5 points 5 days ago

You should research, since this is an oil industry astroturfing lie that has taken hold and it is devastating as you can see. You may drop the doomer part and prevent the spread of misinformation as one of your environmental care tasks

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Nihilism is pointless. Pick up the slack pessimists.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the balls needed to blow up the necessary pipelines are heavier than your mother

Revolutionary Nordstream II ism

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I'm doing what I can, and encourage others to do the same cuz why not; but also under no illusion that our efforts are going to even delay our extinction by a meaningful amount.

We're at the mercy of some miracle-tier scientific breakthroughs, or literal divine/extraterrestrial intervention. There's a shred of hope in the former, but realistically, we're fucked.

The problem is your dooming inspires others to give up.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (6 children)

What if I’m both, I do everything possible but I know it’s futile and we’re fucked. All my efforts i make in my life can be undone by a billionaire on one weekend trip to Europe.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

If the billionaires can do all that then it sounds like you need to redirect your efforts to building class consciousness and mass movements to collectively struggle against the billionaires so they aren't allowed to waste resources like that anymore.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Precisely my point. Even if recycling is a corporate propaganda to shift blame to consumers and the majority of plastics do not get recycled, or that saving water is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of water lost to pipe leaks, it is still better than doing nothing.

Would these doomers have preferred if they had done nothing at all?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 10 points 6 days ago (30 children)

The reason the corporate propaganda to shift blame works is because you are spending your energy worrying about and debating it and telling people that every drop counts rather than doing the far more effective work of organising and fixing the actual problem which is the fact that capitalism is destroying our ecology.

They know it works, they've reused the same playbook for every major ecological disaster, and it keeps working, because we're here chastising each other to just recycle, just save water, just reduce your carbon footprint, just don't use plastic straws, and on and on and on, instead of organising a real solution.

And in case anyone asks whether you can do anything to change the capitalist hellscape that we're living under, I would give your own logic back to you - every little bit works towards the solution. Build local solutions, build mutual aid, wean yourself and your community off of dependence on capital and the state, build mycelial networks of resistance, and you might find that you're less alone and more powerful than you realised before you did this.

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[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I just want people to go vegan because it's so easy, healthy and the right thing to do if you dare to look at it. Simply the most powerful powermove any random chad can do instantly.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

All gigachads are vegan!

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Some of my fellow punks do not agree. They want this peaceful utopia for themselves, but not their fellow earthlings. Burning lush forests, polluting delicate ecosystems for feed, slitting throats in chains by the billions in factories of misery, exploitation and annihilation.
Every single one of you can end a tiny bit of this horror instantly. A true chad does what they can, until they like a taste too much.

Thank you Chad πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago
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