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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 213 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He didn't. He was the only adult there.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

100%. I wish I ever could have been as proud of any of our presidents.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 150 points 2 weeks ago

He did nothing wrong. Trump and Vance are comprised cowards. I'm sorry Ukraine.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 124 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He stood up to American traitors better than any American ever did.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There was one. He was 18 or 19. Over the summer.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 103 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He did nothing wrong. Trump and Vance were the ones who threw a tantrum because zelensky didn't immediately agree to their plan.

[–] KingPyrox@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And they were pissed he didn't wear a suit 🀣

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] You@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That guy is Brian Glenn. He's a host on "Real America's Voice", a right-wing to far-right station and the boyfriend of Marjory Taylor Greene.

The attending "press" has been pre-selected and it's not a stretch to assume that these people know what's expected of them. The narrative is that not wearing a suit is a sign of disrespect. When Trump greeted Zelensky in the beginning he also made a remark about it.

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[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 95 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, I though Zelensky did a decent job of managing his emotions. Most of us would have popped Trump in the mouth before that had ended. (And WTF was up with that guy asking if Zelensky owned a suit? That should have been an automatic throat punch.) Being an American is embarrassing right now. My apologies to the rest of the world. We're a dumpster fire.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

His attire has been a talking point of the pro-Russians for quite some time. It's supposed to denote a lack of respect or something.

[–] tanpopopper@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, just like they would complain if he did wear a suit. There's just no winning with these guys.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Every foreign dignitary who visits the White House should wear a tan suit just for fun.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The answer to the suit question should have been like, "Russia destroyed my suit and Ukraine's tailors are too busy sewing up wounds to spend time making a new one."

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[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that dude is marjorie taylor green's husband

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[–] randomname@scribe.disroot.org 82 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The only person who did something wrong was Trump, supported by his deputy. They did not only verbally attack Ukraine (and, by doing so, Europe), Trump and Vance didn't even pretend to make a case for American interests, given Vance's complaint about Zelensky who thanked U.S. ammunition workers in Pennsylvania when he travelled there, because, in the new U.S. administration's view, this is seen as a support for the Democratic party.

The only positive thing is that the meeting was held in front of TV cameras so the world could witness the self-sabotage of the United States of America. A 'behind the scene' treachery would supposedly be much more harmful to Ukraine. The picture becomes more complete if we look that earlier this week, the U.S. had already voted at the United Nations against Ukraine, siding with Russia and China.

But now, the truth is out: The two men now holding the highest office in the White House are ready to sell the U.S. and its allies to the worst dictators on the globe, as Trump literally admires bad persons as he has been saying over and again. This is a signal the world has finally received. In Ukraine and Europe, but also in Taiwan, and the rest of the Asia-Pacific region, in Africa, in Latin America. It's a tough issue for Ukraine and the democratic world that must now reorganize.

But the toughest long-term challenge is already out for the U.S. Its allies' lost trust won't recover, and the world's dictators will pursue their own goals (maybe even more than ever). The United States are alone in a connected, globalized world. And this means that, with or without Trump at the helm, it'll become increasingly difficult to make America great again.

I am convinced that this is not what the majority of U.S. people want for their country.

[Edit typo.]

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm worried America won't be alone for long. Other countries have fascists to deal with too.

If we resist them, we save the world. If we fail, the new world order will be Nazis everywhere.

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[–] Obelix@feddit.org 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah - Trump, Vance & their ghouls planned this and there is nothing Zelensky could have done except maybe selling off his country to the russians

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

the squishy stinky diaper was offering nothing. not a fucking god damn thing other than future betrayal...

a betrayal you know is coming, one that krasnov's been setting up for years now, and one that will forever tarnish relations between the u.s. and its long-time allies everywhere.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 68 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fat Donnie did this to make Zelenskyy look bad (LOL) and shame him into complying on the "art of the steal" by a bully. It was also a way to make a public excuse for not supporting Ukraine and siding with his actual employer, puny putin.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine if Reagan could have lived long enough to see a republican steal his "make america great again" slogan, turn it into a cult, and then use that cult to be submissive to russia.

Takes a real shitbag to make Reagan look like the better option.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 38 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

And I never thought I would se a President dumber than W. But the orange cancer sure blew that one away by 10,000,000 miles.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was an ambush. The only thing he did wrong was walk into it. Have to give him credit for being willing to take risks to save his country.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 week ago

That is who he is..

The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Narrator: he didn't.

Trump managed to find a way to make me even more embarrassed for our country and angry at his douchebagness.

Zelenskyy has the strength Private Bonespurs will never possess.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I saw that Pz Zelenskyy also thanked America for hosting him, as if he'd been calmly met by a proper head of state.

It takes a special kind of statesman to be blindsided by two half-wit kids and harangued on TV and then treat it as if it was business as usual.

Remember that Pz Zelenskyy is not your typical politician: he's a comedian who won the seat. How is it that this Everyman is more a leader and a collaborator, and those two are clowns out of the slow car?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

I've been watching Hacks, and one thing a good comedian learns is how to read a room and handle a heckler. Zelenskyy knew he couldn't just shut them down because of the power dynamics, but he also knew this wasn't going to play well for Trump with the rest of the room. He didn't back down and yet he didn't take the bait to give them any real excuse to pull US support. They exposed their Russian puppet-strings for the world to see.

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[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminded me of a typical argument between me and my delusional, selfish, narcissistic parents as a teenager. Saying anything at all would make them throw a tantrum.

Trump and Vance did the same type of thing: expected complete fealty after they had voted against Ukraine to join NATO and demanded respect when the previous administration were the ones that did most of the work beforehand. Getting pouty and shouty when he didn’t agree to their shitty β€œdeal.” Brought up meaningless arguments about β€œrespect” and not saying thank you when he had multiple times. Utter madness.

This was about putting on a show for their constituents and they would have done the same if he went in there kissing their asses. But he refused to play the game which made them angrier.

Vance bringing up the conspiracy theory shit about Zelensky putting on a show for visitors as if he was exaggerating is what really set me off. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together saw right through this bullshit song and dance.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it was just bizarre... the "stupid president" helped you... so you need to thank me.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Well, he did try to play chess with a pigeon. I don't know what he was expecting, but at least he made Trump seem like an asshole and a fool.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As an American, he did not. I'm sure he felt like he was in bizarro land where he acts perfectly reasonable and everyone around him is fucking crazy. That's how all us non-MAGAts feel, too.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As an American I think he did…. He forgot to slap Trump in the face.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I understand why he didn't, obviously, but the whole time I watched that happen all I could think was, "PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE"

I assume he must have gone back to his hotel room afterwards and just screamed in frustration for a solid hour. Or had a workout of with a punching bag with Trump and Vance's faces on them.

I'm truly astounded at the patience he showed during that event. It was infuriating to watch.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

A White House official told Axios that Zelensky's interview on Fox was insufficient. "He keeps insisting on security guarantees on this economic deal, and we've made clear that won't be part of this," the official said.

Yeah doh! If we give you actually security guarantees how are we going to let Putin invite you again next year?

You can't have everything zelenski! We can, and we want, but you can't.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So all the European leaders are saying they stand with Ukraine. However that's nothing but "thoughts and prayers" until they bloody do something. Get some boots on the ground or planes in the air. Do something!

[–] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 2 weeks ago

The European Leaders are just worse at marketing themselves, but they are doing considerably more

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago

Nah bud, you good. It's the other jackasses in the meeting that were in the wrong.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

And he's correct.

Most Americans that watched it don't think he did anything wrong, either. Even a lot of conservatives think Trump's behavior was disgraceful.

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