So, if I'm paying only for IDEA, I'm stuck in java and kotlin and have to pay extra to write rust? You know rust code intelligence is just as good in VSCode right? For Free?

[–] Almamu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You usually can install plugins (it's been a long time since I looked into it, so the situation might have changed) to have support for other languages and "convert" it, but doesn't work as good as their standalone versions as they are a bit more integrated and better configured out of the box imo

[–] legoshark@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At least when I tried with CLion, it wasn't possible to get it to support both Rust and Kotlin simultaneously. You can get both in IntelliJ with the Rust plugin, but it didn't work well when I attempted it. I have to use both Rust and Kotlin in the same project at work every day, so I end up switching between IntelliJ and VSCode constantly. Worse, it's a multi-workspace project, so I even have to use several VSCode windows and switch between them, or rust-analyzer refuses to work. It's so easy to get lost in the sea of identical looking code windows. Not ideal 😔

[–] krnpnk@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

YMMV but I use https://github.com/johnpapa/vscode-peacock to differentiate multiple windows in VSCode.

[–] anders@mastodon.cyborch.com 5 points 2 years ago

@aggelalex @asal the code editor market is weird. Microsoft made a really good editor with a really large ecosystem and made it all free. That makes it really hard to justify paying for an IDE these days.

[–] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Even when I was able to get a license through University, I eventually switched to VSCode just to avoid the hassle of verifying my license.

[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

A lot of people here are missing the point.

Yes, it might not be a compelling offering right now. That's why it will be a free beta.

By the time this is actually released, it will have features you can't live without, just like all their other IDE's.

[–] walthervonstolzing@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Federation? Glad to hear they finally cracked FTL space travel.

[+] nothendev@sopuli.xyz -40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Ah yes, the next laggy and shitty jetbrains IDE. Truly wonderful. /s

[–] ZeroNationality@lemmy.one 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's weird, but I quite often sit on calls watching people who use VSCode taking 2-3 times as long to accomplish the same outcome as I can in my Jetbrains IDE. Either they don't have the plugin installed rn, or it's not working atm, or they have too many and it's gotten slow, etc.

[–] ZeroNationality@lemmy.one 16 points 2 years ago

If it's a small edit to a single file VScode is often quicker, but if it's actually working with or developing changes in a larger codebase I find that a well integrated IDE instead of a more basic editor with plugins works better

[–] sajran@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

And then you see a vim wizard flying through the code at the speed of light, leaving those Jetbrains users behind.

Just joking, I love vim (wouldn't call myself a wizard though) but everyone should just use whatever suits them.

[–] nothendev@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

For me jetbrains ides are just not okay. They lag my PC so much that I can't even play Minecraft 1.8.9 at the same time. The plugin list is so tiny - Rust, Color highlight thingy, and builtins!

Also personally I don't like these IDEs just because they aren't open source - I can't modify it if I want to, which in this case doesn't fit the spirit of Rust - making it opensource; the plugin API is so obscure to the point I considered switching to nvim (that was a year ago, not much has changed)

[–] nothendev@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

If they are not going to use Rust-Analyzer here, it's gonna be real shitty