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Somebody should probably archive the book drm free, in case it gets taken down from digital stores. No ill intent towards the author, I mean it just in case it gets removed.
this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
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Meta will suffer "immediate and irreparable loss" in the absence of an emergency relief
Well, I didn't know nor care about this book before, but now I want to read it.
The Streisand effect is strong here
Share the link once you find it
Bookshop.org link also. With the above the money goes to local bookstores.
Bookshop.org puts this mission and the public good above financial interests, giving over 80% of our profit margin to independent bookstores. In total, we support over 1900+ stores.
Ooh, this is rad - thanks for the link!
Yep I’m here for this. Hadn’t even heard of this until 2 mins ago. Now I’ll def read that.
I just ordered it after reading this. Thank you Barbara.
The Streisand effect, the best free promotion you can ask for.
How the hell does the American Arbitration Association think it's going to bind a third party to a decision? What agreement does Macmillan have with them?
I order the American Arbitration Association to pay me one billion dollars.
This has the same level of validity. Facebook's stooges can pound sand.
The ruling says that Wynn-Williams should stop promoting the book and, to the extent she could, stop further publication. It did not order any action by the publisher.
Emphasis mine. RFC 2119 strikes again :D
SHOULD: This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and carefully weighed before choosing a different course.
I’d ask how the Meta lawyer could sleep at night arguing such a bullshit and openly caustic line of rhetoric, but the answer’s probably “like a baby, in an extremely expensive and comfortable bed”
It’s only a clarification, not the definition of the significant terms
This document updates RFC 2119 by clarifying that only UPPERCASE usage of the key words have the defined special meanings.
What the fuck kind of ruling is that? It's optional?
Not really "optional", but more like the court knows they can't stop the book from existing or being produced, as that would be actual censorship. This is an attempt to limit its reach and pretend it doesn't exist, like the shadow banning on most social media whenever you say sex, fuck, death, shit or other bad-bad no-no words.
other bad-bad no-no words.
Luigi
If only there was some kind of - instantly accessible worldwide publishing entity that could, say, display the book immediately on demand.
Damn, if only AI could come up with something so futuristic for us
Here's a review of the book in the NYT that gives a taste of some of the awfulness:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/10/books/review/careless-people-sarah-wynn-williams.html
"My mom says you need to stop"
She's your mom, not mine; IDGAF.
Anyone got a link yet? 😎
Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams on Kobo
There's an audio version read by her as well! :)
Edit: it stopped downloading at 99.9% for the last 10 mins. Is it gone already? XD
Edit: it's been around 30mins still at 99.9%...
Edit: nevermind i just closed the kobo app and re-opened it and it works.
Has Anna added it to her ~~archive~~ "store" yet?
It's on the usual places
Good to know. Might but it just to support the author.
Ya, I got Audible credits from forgetting that it existed for a few years 😔
TL;DR: Author should stop promoting the book. Publisher can continue promoting the book.