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Summary

Former vice presidential nominee Tim Walz criticized Trump for economic chaos while taking personal responsibility for the situation during an MSNBC interview.

"We wouldn't be in this mess if we'd have won the election — and we didn't," Walz told Chris Hayes. He called Trump the "worst possible business executive" and praised the Wall Street Journal's editorial criticizing Trump's tariff war.

Walz emphasized Democrats must offer something better, not just criticize Trump. Recently, he acknowledged a leadership void in the Democratic Party and admitted spending too much time combatting Trump's false claims about immigrants.

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 31 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I disagree Mr. Walz. Had Biden not sat on his hands after being given the power of god by the supreme court - we wouldn't be in this mess today.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Shit if Biden had engaged with the 25th amendment in good faith and we'd had President Harris for a year already it would have been totally different.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You don't even need to go to the SCOTUS decision. Would have been enough for Biden to order his DOJ to immediately arrest and imprison Trump, in the same way that Trump is currently arresting and imprisoning American residents. We've done far worse to people suspected of espionage for far less.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm still baffled Joe is a free man, must be a consequence of having lots of money.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There’s no money to be made by either Trump or President Musk, so why bother with arresting him?

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

But I guess he never locked her up so

[–] terribletzar@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This headline is trash. He's saying we wouldn't be in this mess if they'd won. The headline makes it sound like he's taking much more blame than his actual quote implies.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I read it as “we didn’t win because we didn’t try hard enough.”

He states pretty clearly that democrats need to offer more than just not being another person.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's unfortunate because he was definitely not the problem.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely. Harris didn’t do a single thing to show she was any different than a piece of paper with talking points on it. She did nothing to inspire anyone of anything.

On their other hand, when Tim Walz spoke, I was fucking screaming in my parent’s basement critical support to him. lmfao He fucking got me going, I would have rallied behind that dude.

But no, no progress, only centrist democratic bullshit as the entire country gets pulled out from under us

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm just so sick of the bs centrist dem bullshit where they won't pull left in anyway because they're so focused on their big dollar donors

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When they sidelined him and started campaigning with the Cheneys, any blame was taken off of him.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

They muzzled him despite the fact that calling Republicans "weird" was working.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

No, we'd be "GAmBlIng wItH wOrLd waR THree!"

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago

Props to him for taking ownership of it. It means a lot even if it isn't fully his fault.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Imagine Trump, or any other billionaire, saying something like this. Can't do it? Me neither.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 53 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Not you walz but the Democratic party. Send out 19 billion to Israel while our kids were hungry in school.

[–] peterpan520@feddit.org 23 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Thank God Trump won, because now we get... checks notes... Mar-a-Gaza!?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Thank god for your hindsight, without you we'd never realize what Trump is doing!

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Like as if Biden did not find Israel. 19 billion dollar of our money As a Democrat, I expected Biden to do better. We already know trump is crap. One worse does not make another one good. Both parties are bad. United States is doomed with just two parties. I don't want any of these two parties. What's you take?

If you want to win my vote and many others, know your base well democrats. We are not here to elect the least worse, we are here to elect the best out there for this nation. And don't come btching here because u guys literally are the one that said our vote does not count before the election. may be it suddenly does? See ya in 2028. Hope u learn some lesson.

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