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[–] libra00@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

You have meek fuckers in leadership because that's who the corporate/wealthy donors want there. If you want to get rid of them you're going to have to get rid of the money and influence that put them there.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

He’s not meek he’s corrupt

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're not meek, they profit from the status quo.

These people have no business in governing modern day people, these dinosaurs need to be let go.

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you’re old enough to draw Social Security, you shouldn’t hold office. Period.

Dems agree to set Social Security age to 105

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I know what you mean and mostly agree with upper age limits on office holders but children can receive social security survivors benefits. It is not just (although mainly) old age pensioners.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Here's the actual story, Schumer relented one day after GOP and DNC megadonors threaten to pull funding away from 10 Democrats.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So the super rich really do control everyone and everything.

Who knew?

[–] cool@lemmings.world 5 points 3 days ago

Historians and artists have been trying to tell us this for years.

We didn't listen, but we liked their work.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. I've been calling my Senators since Thursday telling them that if they don't publicly call for Schumer to step down, then they are culpable for his decisions. Supporting fascist enablers is supporting fascism.

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Only if you’re ready for a decades long campaign to flip towns, cities, districts, and state level legislatures like it took the republicans from 1972 to just a month ago.

That’s what we’re up against.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The US needs to break the two-party system so minor parties and independents actually have a chance at representation.

Of course there's no incentive for the establishment to do that. Is there any way for new candidates to run with the major parties, but on a platform to introduce preferential voting when they have the numbers? I don't know much about factions within US parties, but they certainly exist in my country, and can transform parties quickly if they think they have election-winning appeal.

It would have to happen bottom-up, as you say, so people can get comfortable with such a big change. Also, people are much more likely to elect independents at a local level.

[–] cool@lemmings.world 5 points 3 days ago

Gotta move to direct voting.

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 81 points 5 days ago (7 children)
[–] b1t@lemm.ee 58 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's because the Moderates (aka. Republicans in blue suits) control the party and it's been this way for far too long.

It's the same reason Nancy Pelosi kept stepping on AOC's toes and even worked to keep her out of key committee positions, despite her being popular with a lot of Democratic voters.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 days ago

Yeah, they're not meek or cowards.

They bravely stand up to their own base.

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[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 86 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Call your senators, they can still block this despite Schumers push. The vote is tomorrow. If all republican vote for it, they need 7 dems. 8 with Rand Paul who has said he'll vote no. (Republicans are not using reconciliation so it needs the the filibuster)

Many senate dems are publicly coming out against voting for cloture (meaning they won't vote to let it get through the filibuster). As of what I last read, around ~~11~~ 10 dems are thought to potentially vote to let it pass filibuster. Most of those are still not sure. We only need a handful more of those to become noes and it will get blocked. Some yeses have flipped to noes because of public pressure. We cannot let up now

Link to find direct numbers your senators

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

Or call the capitol switch board (202) 224-3121

House dems are publicly telling the senate not to do this (and it's not just AOC on this - it's quite a few of them). Earlier read that 7 Dem state AGs are saying the same. Federal worker unions are telling senate dems not do this. Keep the pressure up

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 66 points 5 days ago (4 children)

no one is this meek. this is collusion. they're complicit, and it's not by accident. they've always been this way.

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[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

We're not going to give Donald Trump what he wants, so we're going to pass this spending bill that gives him everything he wants! That'll how 'im!

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 65 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They're not meek, they're bought.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s really hard to remove bought politicians when it’s the rule and not the exception

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I've often been a defender of Democrats being realistic, but Schumer is on some bullshit here.

It’s unclear what, if anything, Schumer got in return for his decision to allow the House bill to proceed

Says it all right there. The Republican bill was just a list of laughably insane things they knew Democrats would oppose so they could blame the shutdown on them. It actually cuts funding of DC's local budget forcing them to fire teachers and even cops. Again, nothing to do with the federal government. It just grabs power from a local government and says that they can't use their own local tax revenues to educate kids and fight crime. It's complete rabid insanity that has no point other than to bully a blue city. And Schumer's like "Sure, ok. whatever."

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[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

It's long past time for Schumer and most of the timid OLD dems, to step aside. We've had enough of failing. We need to elect people that are capable of fighting back.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Anyone else get the feeling he’s been compromised?

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He's very dependent on donations from the banking industry, it's all there on OpenSecrets. Both NY senators voted to end cloture because that's where wall street is. Gillibrand seems to be avoiding criticism for some reason but it's the same exact story for her. Wall street was already suffering from the Trump tariff decline and couldn't take any more from a shutdown.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Well he's a zionist. And the zionists bought both parties but preferred trump in power. So yeah.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I felt that about the lot of them since the state of the union address.

they're giving off strong "fuck you, got mine" vibes.

I doubt any of them realize the following though.

What do you get if you take everything away from a person?

you get what you fucking deserve.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

You mean like recently? No. It's been a lot more than a feeling since 2016, for me at least. A known fact I guess you could call it?

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you can try, it's unlikely to happen.

Unfortunately we seem to have zero good public speakers in out government, the one thing that actually seems to matter politically, just doesn't exist anymore, apparently.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (19 children)

I love how these conversations happen many times every session, but then campaign time comes and everyone calls me a Russian asset for reminding people of what the "Blue No Matter Who" mentality gets you.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

This is the proper attitude for primaries, not general elections.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (24 children)

The time to have that conversation is before and during the primaries. After that, it's not a worthwhile conversation.

The message isn't the issue, your timing is.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (8 children)

How long do I have to wait for this to work? It's been 25 years of voting blue no matter who and Republicans are just getting more and more power. When do we get to say that's a failed strategy? When there's no elections anymore or when there's only one party on the ballot?

Oh, wait, that happens a ton already because Democrats are fucking useless. Three seats on my 2024 ballot had Republicans running unopposed.

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol Trump called Schumer a "Palestinian" (now a threat) and this fucker just rolls over.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

and muslim groups objected to the dehuanization of the word 'palestinian' becoming a slur, while zionist groups objected to trump calling a jewish guy a palestinian. You cant make this stuff up.

Meanwhile AIPAC continues to control our government and Americans try hard not to pay any attention to that issue, even though our entire government operating as a mercenaryfor hire to the highest corporate or nation state bidder is probably the defining issue of our time.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The US has no form of vote of no confidence. So therefore no way to have consequences for bad governing outside of the voting period, which has its own problems. Importantly here is the need for quick backlash rather than wait two or more years to choose someone else (if there is anyone else allowed to be a pick).

A lot of the flaws in the government are inherent from the beginning because there were certain expectations assumed, and that a document of rules can't be perfect the first, second, or even only a third time. It needs consistent revisions to keep up with the needs of the group it is designed for. This is where the biggest failure has happened, and can be attributed to lack of attention, not wanting to change what seems to work, sacred holding of what was never meant to be set in stone, or just that it often benefited not being changed at the time by those with the power to change it.

Add to all that a very short attention spanned public, fine tuned to be ignorant and forgetful as well as easily manipulated by the simplest of sound bites.

The rot is in the walls. Not that the American Experiment was a bad thing, it's just that it wasn't maintained and updated, so you get eventual decay.

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[–] Xain52@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I called my senators in new mexico to vote no. And with senator lujan the clerk said he will be voting no. So hopefully more will follow.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump will destroy America and blame democrats if we don't fully back Trump destroying America, including removing congressional power to block the destruction of America while it is done.

On blame, easy path is push for clean CR that will keep government open, or reopen, when house votes on it when they feel like coming back to work. GOP will be blamed for the shutdown.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 10 points 4 days ago

Schumer clearly never learned that appeasing Nazis is not the way to go! Or perhaps he's a nazi is disguise.

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