this post was submitted on 14 Mar 2025
167 points (93.7% liked)

Linux

9710 readers
45 users here now

Welcome to c/linux!

Welcome to our thriving Linux community! Whether you're a seasoned Linux enthusiast or just starting your journey, we're excited to have you here. Explore, learn, and collaborate with like-minded individuals who share a passion for open-source software and the endless possibilities it offers. Together, let's dive into the world of Linux and embrace the power of freedom, customization, and innovation. Enjoy your stay and feel free to join the vibrant discussions that await you!

Rules:

  1. Stay on topic: Posts and discussions should be related to Linux, open source software, and related technologies.

  2. Be respectful: Treat fellow community members with respect and courtesy.

  3. Quality over quantity: Share informative and thought-provoking content.

  4. No spam or self-promotion: Avoid excessive self-promotion or spamming.

  5. No NSFW adult content

  6. Follow general lemmy guidelines.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can finally stop calling it GNU/Linux.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Oh good God, Linux is finally old enough to start rusting?! And on BOTH ENDS?

vigorously shakes can of WD-40

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's extremely unexpected.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The GNU utils weren't written by Canonical so they were doomed from the start.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not to worry, they'll ship 'em via snap.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

More likely they will make them dependent on snap so you can't remove snap without breaking the system.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because why? I can expect a very niche distro like Cachy do it but not a big project with a serious market share.

[–] tehfishman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Canonical has a long history of doing wacky shit that nobody asked for though. Unity, upstart, snap, probably other things that I'm not thinking of

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Unity was great, though. Ubuntu took a hit going back to customized gnome

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Unity at least didn't break anything, and you still had a choice in choosing desktop environment.

[–] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Wait is this their way to break compatibility with old binaries so that you're forced to use snap?

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago

They're steadily climbing the test suit:

test coverage

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

The uutils should be compatible so I don't think so

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Check out our new Coreutils! (Snap required)

Seriously though I'm just imagining that Coreutils are now going to be dependent on snap.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think so unless they make their own rust core utils.

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is there any actual benefit ?

[–] arjache@fedia.io 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Code written in Rust has been shown to have significantly fewer security vulnerabilities than code written in C. Distributions like Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates, so by switching to Rust-based utils, they can reduce their workload in the long run.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 16 points 1 month ago

Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates

After introducing the Pro I don't think so.

[–] Harlehatschi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

But looking at the security vulnerability records of gnu coreutils that wasn't really needed. There were like a handful in the last 15 years... So I don't really see a need or benefit here.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (16 children)

It's been proven faster. That's all I personally know.

load more comments (16 replies)
[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Just security and hype afaik.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Well the rust project is MIT licensed, so definitely not.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Rust is good, rare Ubuntu W. Now stop with the forced use of snaps.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You think this is a win, but is just another step in the enshittification.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about licences and FOSS?

[–] fum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

According to the video it's MIT licence, and they discuss the risk of such a licence vs coreutils usage of the GPL

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago

This worries me indeed.

[–] Sgarcnl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Archlinux usually is a bit more reasonable. I don’t understand the forcing. Just makes me love it (archlinux) more!

[–] vala@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally why? Not even criticizing rust but the GNU core utils are easily some of the most reliable and documented software tools ever written.

Not to mention, looks like the rust core utils are MIT and not GPL.

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Literally why?

Because MIT?

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

This is the Linux community's Sophie's choice.

load more comments
view more: next ›