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Right now, the people that voted for him that are bent over, lubed up, and spreading their cheeks are starting to wonder if it was the right move. The blue states where everybody either wishes he'd be ended or are making up reasons why it'd be worse for him to be a martyr... We still have our rights because our states are cool... For now.

So, depending on how the red states take being ultra fucked and if trump tries to waggle his weird tiny rapist weiner over at our rights and systems here in blue states, could result in(tw rape):

1. raping the red states and them liking it, and not touching blue states: no civil war.
2. raping the red states and them liking it, and then coming for the blue states: possible civil war.
3. raping the red states and them not liking it, and not touching the blue states: no civil war.
4. raping the red states and them not liking it, and then coming for blue states: no civil war.

But since Trump is a true fascist and either a Nazi sympathizer or an outright Nazi, and so are a good portion of the red states' populations, it's kind've all up in the air right now. Which is why I said we're on the brink of one. Is Trump going to end up dead? Yes. Very high chance. Everybody around the world is hoping for it.

Now, is ww3 or a us civil war more likely to happen?

Well, right now, trump has invited his friends over and red is hogtied and having second thoughts. Blue is stuck in the room but doesn't want anything to do with him since we're pretty self sustaining in most regards, but unfortunately we still currently operate under the systems that trump has taken over.

Honestly, it's more likely that he continues to rape red, and then somebody else takes over while we're dealing with the bullshit for the next 50 years. Which is why I say we leave red with trump by forming cascadia, possibly join Canada, lead a sociopolitical insurgency against the then neutered usa, execute the traitors to human morality, and then not let shit like this happen again by not allowing the south to do whatever it wants with education and voting by having a true democracy but having standardized education and firing those who don't teach the proper curriculum.

Because teaching insane stuff like "religion" (religions are blatantly cults) in schools and "evolution is just a theory" is so bad for children that it's child abuse on par with anti-vaxxing. Rotting children's brains with delusions like "gay people are evil" or "trans people don't exist" is liked the equivalent of training cock fighting but in humans by psychological terror, and should be treated as such.

I'm all for allowing other worldviews to exist, but at this point, human religion is so far past being proven as absolute belligerent bullshit that I cannot in good faith allow it to exist. Peaceful people of religion are everywhere, but they are exceptions to the rule that religion is built to be hostile to other world views, and will all eventually vey for power and dominance. Fuck. Anti-birth control, family worldview inheritance, patriarchal structures, proselytizing? Secret organizations with heiarchy interpretation of the will of their leader? Come ON.

One of these world views is going to end up dominant, and regardless of how far into space humanity goes before dying, any existing religion made up by crackpot old fools trying to come up with grassroots power structures "for the people" IS NOT IT. And we see how much tension, pain, strife, and retardation of society occurs when religion is applied. Fascism is not it, religion is not it, dictatorship is not it.... We've got to keep on progressing, but in order to do so, we gotta pull the slowest parts of humanity with us, the ones dragging their feet and kicking and screaming. We need to feed them and take them outside to touch grass so they stop abusing their children in ad nauseum so that they can grow up to be healthy, supportive parents, strong enough to foster healthy happy children.

We are only mortal for now, so are we're stuck in this cycle. Can we at least make it not trash and strive for something better? I'm tired of reading posts by young queer teens in other countries who are terrified of their parents after coming out to them. I never, ever see follow up posts, and can only hope they all made it to the point where they can be accepted and loved by their families and communities, but we all know that isn't the case.

Listen. This post was originally just going to be "is civil war going to happen". But, in reality, there's so, so much more going on. For the wives, husbands, daughters, sons, young people, old people, people that don't want to have anything to do with politics, and those that do. We're all stuck here together, as neighbors and as associates, and I can only tell you how I see the world.

I see a lot of intelligent people, each with their own world views, all clashing, avoiding, and trying to assert power over their own fears. You all live in my head as opposing ideas, some worth more than others, some being completely useless. A lot of you will die. I will die before a lot of you, and none of this matters on the universe scale.

But my ideal is that we can grow our understanding of each other and get past these growing pains in the right way. That's the only way humanity is going to make it. You have to remember the past and learn from it so that you can keep going into the future, learning and developing and trying new things. If you don't remember and learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it. That, we know is true.

So... Is civil war that likely?

I'm here right now, too; fuck if I know, I'm only human.

The planet will likely live on, long after we're gone, and that makes me feel a little better... I guess.

Greece and Turkey have fights occasionally. NATO doesn't care. Mark Rutte smiled at invasion threat of Greenland, saying it is not a NATO matter.

Maybe. We hope.

Europe has their hands full at the moment with Ukraine.

Bit different in this scenario. Not only would the idea of fighting the most powerful military on earth cause hesitation, but they'd be doing it from across the ocean where the us would no doubt have their navy stationed with nuclear submarines, destroyers, and air craft carriers. That, and if Russia is going to become more aggressive, which Trump is obviously empowering him to do, Europe needs to worry about itself. We are right next to them as well meaning they would be able to take us with almost no trouble. So nato would now have to conquer the us not just defend against it. Also, nato has never been tested in a situation like this. We don't know if the alliance would just fall apart or something. As a Canadian, I'm not really counting on them too much since the idea of them actually successfully protecting us seems completely out to lunch. I'm thinking nato falls apart once the us leaves it and is replaced by a more European oriented military alliance.

I wish I had your faith.

I agree with the lack of logic, as Trump yesterday announced wartime powers, using the pretense of being at war with gangs to justify the order.

That said, I don't see any invasion being based upon any real need, even from an economic level. In fact, such an act will be extremely counterproductive and will harm not only their general economy, but the bottom line of many of their top businesses. Not to mention that any project to extract Canadian resources that aren't already abundant in the US will take at least a half decade to even start producing, with profits only emerging two decades after any annexation at best.

And that presumes that any extraction is done quickly and smoothly. Frankly speaking, the issue is that to extract most things at scale, everything needs to be built up from the ground level, including roads.

That doesn't even start with the liklihood of constant protests and vandalism, including some crazies that try to shoot out tires and critical equipment.

Has Been doing that for hundreds of years. But that's a problem for prehistoric people. Modern tech can fix all that....Lemmy see...the boring compan...ah shit. Nevermind!

Possibly yeah. One day.

To be fair, I live in the middle and it hit -40°C this winter

as an American this is a stupid point because our democracy is over

As if they would give us senators and equal voting rights. The US is now a hostile rogue nation on par with the DPRK and Venezuela as far as I'm concerned.

Anything that benefits anyone who isn't rich and white is woke.

We (Americans) also basically failed at nearly every single engagement that was an attempted incursion into British/Canadian territory or attack on a British fort/settlement west of the US proper, they were pretty much all either repulsed, or only initially successful for a short amount of time and then driven out.

I could be wrong, but I am willing to bet that many of those soldiers opposing the Americans involved in initial American incursions into Canada were British soldiers who lived in Canada, and/or were Native/First Nations allies of the British, and are thus proto-Canadians, unlike the Royal Navy and Marines who showed up in force within about a year, and were then withdrawn after the US basically sued for peace.

I agree that it's an oversimplification to view the entire war as just US vs a nascent Canada, but I also think it's an oversimplification to view the entire war as the US vs the UK.

Also I didn't state that Canadians burned down DC. I said that the last time the US fucked with Canada, the result was our capitol being burned down.

Sure, but The Geneva Convention is quite literally a list of things that The Canadians did in WWI that we collectively agreed was going a bit too far for war.

It's also not a war crime if you're not enlisted.