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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

[–] Slax@sh.itjust.works 7 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

[–] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 24 minutes ago

I wish we did with more open source and local software. My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
The databases are all azure
The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
Teams
We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

It's a public school. Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed - anything not FOSS is just setting up another bad situation waiting to happen

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago

It says in one of the first paragraphs, that its open-source

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

So FramaSoft is not a thing ?

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

[–] RichardDegenne@lemm.ee 15 points 4 hours ago

Bro has been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.

[–] SaraTonin@lemm.ee 16 points 4 hours ago

It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 3 points 4 hours ago

A bit of both I guess

Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

A good web app is awesome!

But the big ones usually wants to have a native app so that they can scan your whole computer and so on. This is good news.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 74 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

[–] Tramort@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

Yea I’m not a fan of helm either. In fact, I avoid charts when possible. But kustomize is great.

I feel the same way about docker compose. If it wasn’t already obvious, I’m biased in favor of k8s. I like and prefer that interface. But that’s just preference. If you like docker compose, great!

There’s one point where I do disagree however. There are scenarios where a local k8s cluster has a good and clear purpose. If your production environment runs on k8s, then it’s best to mirror that locally as much as possible. In fact, there are many apps that even require a k8s api to run. Plus, being able to destroy and rebuild your entire k8s cluster in 30s is wonderful for local testing.

Edit: typos

[–] Metju@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Seconding k3d (and, by extension, k3s). If you're in a market for sth suitable for more upstream-compliant clustering solution (k3s uses SQLite instead of etcd, iirc), RKE2 is also a great choice

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 39 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

What was wrong with libre?

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Libre only does local document collaboration, having it online is helpful for teams far from each other or who simply don't have the infrastructure for their own central server of this kind.

[–] ulair@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Well this has been running in our Nextcloud and works pretty well collaboratively :) https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online not sure how it scales, but definitely an alternative that can be built on

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 48 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Fuck :( Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 28 points 15 hours ago

Yes, that's excellent.. We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 15 hours ago

Great news!

This is probably the last hump for me before I can completely degoogle.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Nice. Where is the source, on github (I didn't see it but I only skimmed)? Federated? Self-hostable?

[–] whatsgoingdom@rollenspiel.forum 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

From briefly looking over the toot, I think the German version is called openDesk (bad choice as there seems to be some interior design software with the same name) there is a community version you can self host in a docker container. They apparently also have distro packages for Debian and Ubuntu but they seem to have stopped development on those.

Here's a link: https://opendesk.eu/en/

[–] mtoboggan@feddit.org 18 points 15 hours ago

openDesk is a complete suite of open source software. I guess Docs could at some point become a part of it. But it‘s not the same thing.

[–] chameleon@fedia.io 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Github: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

Self-hostable, but it seems like an absolute behemoth of an application if their "non-production-use-only" docker-compose file is to be believed, and I couldn't find any production-ready deployment instructions on a quick skim. No obvious signs of federation and I didn't see anything on their roadmap, not sure it would make a lot of sense for this though.

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