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[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Randomly made this when clearing a pen's nib on a post-it

[–] unnamedau@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

what an esteemed little guy :)

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[–] lemmylime@lemy.lol 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] MECHAGIC@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

do it again but stare at grass for a few hours

Edit: Also i drew "your" guy pregnant

Gave it a fat ass too

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

evenly lit, ink smudged weird, camera somehow perfectly on top without occluding any light

may snakes bite your balls and all your milk turn sour

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude this is a masterpiece, it’s in no way half assed.

[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's finest AI slop..

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Here's my shitty drawing of something AI can't draw

[–] debil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

That's actually pretty good depiction of a chunk of roast beef with a revolving rotor attached to it and flying upwards.

[–] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Time to move the goal posts again:

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My career as an artist is in shambles

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[–] xorollo@leminal.space 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My doodle this week. I trace from cute pictures I see on the internet.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Absolutely! I want to see art and human expression and not corporate generated productivity outputs.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Can we just cut the back and forth and accept AI as another tool and let soulless AI content die off naturally. No one listens to music that's all autotune after we decided that it was shit. The same will be said for AI.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some people need something to rage and virtue signal against. Those who work in private STEM sectors or took machine learning classes years before the LLM craze already understand the tool is here and are willing to learn to work with it if applicable in their job or daily life.

Those who don't understand anything about the science of machine learning and are angry at the how megacorporations got away with unconsentually scraping their copyright infringed data off the internet for the first iterations of training data still get to let off some steam by calling it 'hyped autocomplete just as bad as NFTs that will never do what a person can'.

If I were an artsy type whos first exposure to ML was having my work stolen followed by the thief bragging to my face about how copy protection laws dont matter to the powerful and now they can basically copy my honed style 1 to 1 with a computer to sell as an product, I would be unreasonably pissed too and not interested this whole 'AI'thing. Megacorps made chatGPT and stable diffusion using my work therefore AI bad. I get it.

That said, I'm not an artsy type or an idealist. I'm a practical engineer who builds systems to process the flows of information and energy with the tools available at my dispersal. Theres more to machine learning than proprietary models made with stolen information to be sold to th masses. Instead models are just the next new way to process large datasets full of complicated information. Its just that now were taking cues from natures biological information processing systems. Whether such processes prove more certain and effective to the old analog and digital ways have yet to be seen. Perhaps using these new tools will open up entirely different ways of treating information for all of society. Perhaps it will be just another niche thing for researchers to write papers about. Time will tell.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)
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[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

Everyone is welcome to do just that in !sillydrawingrequests@sopuli.xyz :)

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

"I judge art on the basis of how it was made, not on its merit in terms of the emotions and thoughts it elicits from me"

[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I judge art on the basis of three things:
The intent of the artist,
The context surrounding the art,
My own interpretation of the art

A stable diffusion model is not much more than a set of statistical functions executed over a large array of numbers. Therefore, the model cannot have intent.
The use of the model to generate images damages the environment, makes use of work made by artists who, by design, cannot be credited for said work, and no or very little artistic effort went into the generation. Therefore, the context is pretty loathesome.
The third point depends on the image, although I find that most images do not have much in the way of creativity or artistic direction, and come off as "bland", "samey", "wrong". The fact that there is no intent makes it hard for me to read intent. Therefore, my interpretation is usually not very favourable.

These are my thoughts. I believe your ideas about art and how we should judge it (which is what you are prescribing) to be quite stupid, but you live your life however you want, I guess.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The intent of the artist

There is someone using the model and it's their intent that matters. When looking at a photograph, you don't consider the intent of the camera.

The context surrounding the art

The environmental damage is mostly due to our failure of an energy grid. In any case, you can run these at home with no real environmental impact. It's also crazy to talk about the impact digital technology has and ignore the impact marble statues or even simple paint has. Same for ignoring things like collage when it comes to copyright issues. You simply aren't being fair.

We can look at the context in terms of how easy it is which is actually fair. But that can varie a lot (as seen below) and shouldn't be the defining factor.

My own interpretation of the art

You largely ignored this since it is essentially "the thoughts and emotions it envokes". It is also arguably the most important.

We seem to mostly have the same line of thought except I actually judge the piece instead of letting my bias do it. And I don't call people stupid.

I also think context and intent is largely missing and can only be guessed for most art we see, especially on the internet.

In any case, I invite you to view this, read their process and tell me how it has none of the things you mentioned.

https://makeitrad.xyz/project/etherea/

[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I disagree with your points fundamentally, and I believe the difference is in how we interpret both art and the creation of art. I do not believe that a prompter is able to convey enough intent for it to count.
This could be compared to someone commisioning a drawing for, for example, a story. The story and direction they give, that would be the prompt or what lead to it, in this case, would display their intent. The drawing itself, however, would not display their artistic vision, but that of the artist they commissioned to draw it. Now, they might coördinate with said artist to get their visions to align as closely as possible, but as I said, models have no vision, and so none can be aligned with. You could 'find' an image generated by such a model that aligns with what you wish for, but there is no intent behind it.

The environmental damage is inherent to the technology, as matrix multiplications are inherently not very efficient, and any given model runs a lot of them. Running a model at home seems more efficient because you only generate for yourself, but if every user of diffusion where to do this, the cost would not be better.

I do not understand what you see in the video you sent me. It does not, to me, seem to carry a message. Sure, some of it's imagery can be aesthetically pleasing, but I cannot interpret it as carrying any meaning.

Oh, and dw, I did not mean to call you stupid, I think the ideas about art you have specifically are stupid. That does not necessarily carry over to any other part of you.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Prompting can be quite involved, especially when you use techniques like ControlNet, img2img, and inpainting. In the video I linked, they used real footage of dancers and the rest is essentially very complicated post processing. There's countless way to use AI generation and it can easily be blended with other mediums.

While typing a quick prompt and generating something in a few minutes might not qualify as art, dismissing the entire medium is shortsighted.

The environmental damages are there but you chose to ignore the environmental damages of every other form. Even using cloud computing pales in comparaison with the cost of shipping over brushes from China.

I see in the video the things you were asking for in your previous comment:

It has clear creative intent and objectives. Context wise, it weaves together multiple art forms in a complex, cohesive piece. It's clearly pleasing and brings about an emotional response. It’s a strong example of how AI can be thoughtfully integrated into the creative process.

Having a message and meaning is just another goal post even more subjective then the last which is the real issue. You are gate keeping something so subjective, and calling any differing opinion stupid is brutally obnoxious.

[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (28 children)

Is it not possible that how something is made also elicits emotions and thoughts?

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

"I find the ethics involved in the creation of something to be irrelevant."

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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Depends on the artist. Shitty at drawing but got skills on the comp? Ill take the art you used AI for.

Plenty of AI slop out there sure, but there is also plenty of drawn/painted/sculpted/whatever slop out there as well.

Hating on new tools is some dumb shit.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hating on new tools is some dumb shit.

This has never been what the issue is. The issue isn't the tool, but how it's made and how it's used.

AI gen programs are almost to a fault created using art without permission with the express purpose of then using said programs to put the workers whose skills were stolen out of a job. Without artists, gen AI would have nothing to train on. They are basically the definition of wage theft in their current form.

You might as well be arguing that Temu brand fast fashion is just as good as any other kind of clothing.

And the other end that gets hate is the people who consider themselves to be better than artists because the prompt they put into an LLM created an image that they consider to be better than what artists make. They're jealous of people creating something and want the reward without putting in the effort so they can hold it over others.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

To me, it's more that I get a glimpse of the human behind the art, even or especially if they're shitty at drawing. That's why I also like memes which are thrown together haphazardly. If it's pixel-perfect imagery, I don't see much from that at all.

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