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The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing. The price of the console The price of the games The price of their online services and upgrades...
All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.
Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.
Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.
Maybe I’m just getting old, but I was very bored and underwhelmed during the entire presentation even before the terrible pricing reveal. I like the mouse joycons and the Donkey Kong game. That’s about it.
Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.
Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.
Nintendo continuously makes the easiest to hack and emulate consoles and handhelds. They been fighting emulation for 30 years and still churn out systems that get cracked immediately.
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Nintendo won’t make this mistake again
17th time's the charm
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But $450 does feels like the upper limit cost of something you give a child, and if you're charging me Real Console money for this then I kinda expect to be treated like an adult.
It is a Real Console. Today's big showpiece was fucking Bloodborne 2 and some people still can't get out of their bubble where they think it's a children's toy.
Nintendo deliberately exited the Real Console wars after the Gamecube. This is an interesting time for them to decide to re-join it.
Nintendo launched the first Switch at $299; just accounting for inflation over the past years - that’s ~$390 now, BEFORE even trying to account for any Trump-tariffs they have been (or will be) imposed on electronics hardware.
I hate to give Nintendo credit, but $450 is actually somewhat reasonable given the current global shit-show.
I think most people are more upset about Nintendo pushing an $80 price tag for first party games. TotK put a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths, but it was both a technical marvel and highly anticipated. People were beyond hyped about the game years before we learned about the increased price.
Mario Kart World was announced out of the blue, and while it looks like a ton of fun, it's not the same kind of 'I would be disappointed if I didn't play it before I died' as TotK. So a further bump in price for it just feels awful.
It's not just the console prices that have gone up. Console is, 470 euros, Mario Kart is 90 euros, Pro Controller 2 is 90 euros, the SD card is 60 euros, a webcam is 60 euros...
Meanwhile, their competition is getting cheaper every day.
My point is more that new/launch technology is always more expensive at launch, until economies of scale can kick in; and this is the first console launch after the 1-2 years of post-COVID double-digit inflation globally.
It sucks, and I’m not trying to excuse it or hand-wave it away - more-so just pointing out that it was kinda foreseeable, given the current state of things.
If you think this is bad, wait until the next round of console launches in ~2027 from Sony.
I can understand the console being more expensive, especially since we don't really know its specs yet (or at least I don't). Why is Mario Kart 30 euros more expensive, tho? It doesn't paint a good picture.
I’m an old curmudgeon, and I remember (my parents) paying ~$50 for SNES back in the early-to-mid ‘90s; so I’m not exactly shocked that Nintendo have lifted their sell-price.
Compared to back then; gaming is still somewhat more affordable, which definitely feels counter-intuitive - I know!
Japan has for the first time since 1991 had >2% annual inflation for 3 straight years, definitively ending their 2+ decade of stagflation. Developer wages are going up, and games take longer to develop - those costs need to be covered. I am in support of paying a fair market price if (and only if), that increase goes to the labour, and not shareholder profits.
Seeing as the Executive team at Nintendo opted to take a salary-cut, rather than lay off staff, following the failure of the WiiU — they have exactly one credit from me, for the benefit of the doubt.
But that is where my good graces end; other developers are going to take this as the green light to further increase prices on their own (unfinished, rushed, micropayment-laden) titles, across the industry. Heck, there are rumblings that the base version of GTA6 may be $100USD!
To your point
Atari
Atari 2600 (1977) – $199.99 (~$1,010 today)
Magnavox
Magnavox Odyssey (1972) – $99.99 (~$745 today)
Nintendo
Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) (1985) – $199.99 (~$560 today)
Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) (1991) – $199.99 (~$460 today)
Nintendo 64 (1996) – $199.99 (~$400 today)
GameCube (2001) – $199.99 (~$345 today)
Wii (2006) – $249.99 (~$375 today)
Nintendo Switch (2017) – $299.99 (~$370 today)
Sega
Sega Master System (1986) – $199.99 (~$550 today)
Sega Genesis (1989) – $189.99 (~$470 today)
Sony (PlayStation)
PlayStation (PS1) (1995) – $299.99 (~$600 today)
PlayStation 2 (2000) – $299.99 (~$540 today)
PlayStation 3 (2006) – $499.99 - $599.99 (~$750 - $900 today)
PlayStation 4 (2013) – $399.99 (~$540 today)
PlayStation 5 (2020) – $399.99 - $499.99 (~$480 - $600 today)
Microsoft (Xbox)
Xbox (2001) – $299.99 (~$520 today)
Xbox 360 (2005) – $299.99 - $399.99 (~$470 - $630 today)
Xbox One (2013) – $499.99 (~$675 today)
Xbox Series X (2020) – $499.99 (~$600 today)
Many thanks for this! Really puts the console gaming hobby into perspective.
My two biggest take-aways:
- Holy shit, that Atari 2600 was expensive!
- Really explains why the PlayStation 3 stumbled out of the gate, oof!
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It's not convoluted at all. It's extremely simple: if you want to (edit: legally) play first party Nintendo titles (or other exclusives), you MUST buy a switch. If you don't care about Nintendo exclusives, there's absolutely no reason to own a switch. That has been true of every, single Nintendo console ever released... except for the Wii. People bought a Wii so they could play a motion control game with Grandma once or twice, and then just let the console sit and collect dust.
When the Switch 1 released there was nothing else on the market like it. Play handheld on the bus, get home, dock it, continue playing in full HD. That is amazing. I didn't get the Switch 1 because of the exclusives, it was the versatility that got me.
I agree that Nintendo was ahead of the curve when it came to expanding portable gaming, but the only reason the switch sold so many units, and ultimately got so many games ported to it, was because of Nintendo first party titles. If you look at the best selling switch titles, the vast majority of them are Nintendo games. Without Nintendo first party titles, the switch would have been far outsold by better devices.
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I don't blame them. Nintendo fans buy anything at any price. I don't see it being different this time.
Mario Kart 8 never goes on sale and sold 70m copies; Pokémon Scarlet/Violet sold 30m despite looking and playing like dogshit; they sold Skyward Sword HD, the remaster of a 10-yo game, at full price and still placed a few millions.
Nintendo is basically like Apple at this point, the brand is enough to convince people to spend more than they would for the competition, regardless of quality. I personally know a lot of people who loudly groaned/complained at the price announcement, but will still buy it day one, just like they always had in all these years.
And people terminally online should stop pretending the Steam Deck is competition to the Switch 2. It couldn't even compete with the Switch 1, which was five years older, had worse performance, and had been easily emulated for years at that point.
Nintendo fans buy anything at any price.
Counterpoints: Wii U. 3DS at launch.
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Best time to buy Nintendo hardware is after the announcement of a hardware exploit.
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The console price, the game price and no oled screen as well as it being so damn big make it a hard pass for me.
Il wait for the Switch 2 Lite OLED.
$450 and not OLED is insane
The game pricing argument goes back and forth for me. Yes, on paper, you could say that inflation suggests games should go up in price, especially considering how many more developers are needed to put out high-fidelity games. BUT, on the other hand, the minimum wage has not raised significantly in all of that time. As a result, a significant number of gamers genuinely can't pay more for games than they could 20+ years ago. The reason these larger studios exist is because of gaming's expanded reach in that time; and many of these new target territories similarly can't pay for the equivalent of $80USD.
There's maybe only about 1-2 games I've ever even paid the $70 price tag for.
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