this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2025
421 points (98.2% liked)

Not The Onion

15641 readers
2590 users here now

Welcome

We're not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!

The Rules

Posts must be:

  1. Links to news stories from...
  2. ...credible sources, with...
  3. ...their original headlines, that...
  4. ...would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

Please also avoid duplicates.

Comments and post content must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.

And that’s basically it!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/26864906

Britain must allow US chlorine-washed chicken into UK markets if it wants relief from sweeping tariffs, Donald Trump has indicated.

It comes after the UK failed to avoid tariffs imposed on the global economy, with the US president slapping a 10 per cent levies on all British exports to the United States.

...

In a statement published alongside the tariff announcement, the White House said: “The UK maintains non-science-based standards that severely restrict US exports of safe, high-quality beef and poultry products.”

It suggested that Britain’s ban on chlorinated chicken was among a range of “non-tariff barriers” that limit the US’s ability to trade.

The UK has long ruled out allowing imports of chlorine-washed chicken from the US due to health concerns, with Downing Street on Thursday reiterating its manifesto commitment to high food standards.

Asked whether the UK could allow imports of chlorine washed chicken in order to appease the US, the prime minister’s officials spokesperson said: “Our position on that is unchanged. You’ve got the manifesto commitment on food standards, which obviously remains.”

...

The last major polling done on the issue, conducted in 2020, revealed that 80 per cent of Britons are opposed to allowing imports to the UK, and the same proportion is also against allowing chicken products that have been farmed using hormones.

There is also growing pressure from the farming industry to rule out concessions on the issue, amid fears it could undercut British farmers and drive down food standards.

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken to be sold in the UK as part of a free trade deal with the US.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Or, and here me out here, the UK and EU arrange the most passive aggressive reconciliation ever by removing trade tariffs from one another, then slap a huge tax on any assets owned by the ruler of a foreign nation in their territory.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

There's no way that the uk is going to be ok with this. It's gross and not how the world works. Stop it America

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 38 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The UK maintains non-science-based standards

Maybe look at who is in charge of your health department before your start complaining about "non-science-based standards"

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They only say "Science-Based" as a dogwhistle to mean "Ignoring what science says about transpeople and substituting my own evidence based on ignorance and vibes."

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The "head" of any department is often not a scientist. Scientists conduct technical work, they don't manage departments or orgs.

[–] bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 15 minutes ago

Right, but in order to be "science based" you do have to be led by someone who actually believes in and follows scientific consensus.

Not someone who doesn't believe viruses are the cause of disease, wants to revisit the fraudulent claim that vaccines cause autism, doesn't understand that people will die if you stop pasteurising milk etc.

[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Wait....does that mean Americans are currently consuming chicken thats been washed in chlorine?! How the FUCK is that up to scientific and health standards??

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Most of our tap water has a touch of chlorine to kill off microorganisms. No need to jerk that knee.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The difference is that the chlorine disperses throughout the water and genuinely kills the bacteria, whereas the chlorine wash for chicken only sanitises the surface of the diseased chicken's skin and any needle pushed through it. It does nothing to the meat and merely hides bacteria from detection.

America doesn't have animal welfare rules anything like like the UK and EU have, and their chickens are usually kept in cramped conditions and bathe in their own filth all day long. It's not very uncommon for their bellies to be actually rotting.

Chlorine washes the evidence away.

[–] wispy_jsp@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, given all the cramped factory farms and wide spread disease in poultry factories, it's probably good we chlorine them up. Not to say I'd expect another country with better production methods to want to buy our shitty meat though

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

The chlorine only sanitises the outside and any needle that passes through it.

[–] Exatron@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's not as much of a thing in the US today, but even the European Commission has found that it's not a problem unless you're eating 5% of your bodyweight in chlorinated chicken every day. It's mostly protectionism for European poultry farmers under the guise of safety.

Sources: European Commission. (2003, April). The evaluation of antimicrobial treatments for poultry carcasses.

European Commission. (2008, April). Environmental impact and effect on antimicrobial resistance of four substances used for the removal of microbial surface contamination of poultry carcasses

European Food Safety Authority. (2015). Risks for public health related to the presence of chlorate in food.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The problem with chlorine washed chicken is NOT the chlorine, it's the diseased underside of battery chickens who spend all day wading in their own filth and with endemic salmonella which passes tests for disease and bacteria because the chlorine sanitises the outermost layer and any needle that passes through it without killing the source of the problem at all. Americans get food poisoning FAR more often than Europeans, and the disgusting conditions the animals are kept in is a big part of the problem.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 3 minutes ago

Yeah, that's what many Americans don't understand - chickens in the UK (and EU for that matter) live much much better lives (mostly free range, unless it's an avian flu pandemic time). And the chlorine ban ensures that.

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

Haven't you heard? It rinses away all the covid from the internal organs. If it works for people it's definitely good enough for chickens.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website -1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's not the chlorine that's the problem, it's the disease it masks from testing.

[–] chaitae3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Tap water isn't chlorinated in most of Europe as well

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago

Shut the fuck up Donny, you're out of your element.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 28 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Why do they want us to eat their chlorinated chicken so badly? Sounds like an evil agenda coming along....

We have our own farmers anyway.

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken to be sold in the UK as part of a free trade deal with the US.

So called "nationalist", support local farmers.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So called “nationalist”, support local farmers.

Nothing more British than shutting down a local business to reap profit from outsourcing. Just ask Thatcher.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] Ardycake@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I wasn't born in the US but find myself living here. The food is awful. Cutting corners and padding some pockets, but listeria outbreaks on our food has become a weekly commonplace. Hundreds of recalls a month. The food is so treated its inedible. I cut almost everything out and buy from imported stores as much as possible. Even European brands often have an American version that is full of junk, so I have to read labels so carefully. I wish it wasn't this way. No one here wants this.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, there’s a phenomenon where stereotypically fat Americans move abroad, and suddenly start losing a ton of weight. Not because their eating habits consciously changed, but simply because the food that was readily available was suddenly so much healthier than when they were in America. Almost as if infrastructure has a huge impact on the public’s health.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Portions in the US tend to just be larger as well. So you're eating larger portions of bad food.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Now with real bleach - certified Covid-free!

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

If I remember, Project 2025 also wanted to open up the NHS to "foreign competition" too.

It won't stop at just chlorinated chicken.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

EU should respond by banning all type of chicken from US

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago

"Free market"

"Buy our chicken or you will lose your market here"

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 36 points 21 hours ago

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken

Annnnd there you have it.

[–] match@pawb.social 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

generally kinda fucked up to think about raw meat being bulk shipped across oceans anyways

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 26 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Oh boy if you think that’s fucked up: They take American chickens, send them to China to process, then ship them back to the USA to sell to us.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago

Didn't this guy also just remove food regulation in USA? Smert move!

load more comments
view more: next ›