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You'll need easy access to Canada. What better way than to have a close Canadian Province? - Wa state

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It's really not legally possible, meaning your either having a revolution, a civil war, or the USA has no ability to stop you as it's effectively over.

Unless CA has military bases that would fully side with them, as in all the ones in CA and they would need other states, THEN a war could be possible, but that is very unlikely, currently there's no military that could beat the US military, so it's not even worth going over unless the US dissolves.

The best way would be quiet quitting. Making routes to federal buildings surrounded by construction and road closures at odd times. Overlapping federal job descriptions internally and never communicating with federal equivalents unless required, and that with a “great email, still working on that!” Or “emailed Oregon about that and they had some great ideas, get with them for the data!”

Offering great state guard contracts to all military eligible to re-up, that exceed what the feds offer. Build out coastal protection fleet due to “them darn migrants.” Train your military in FPV as if you were what the US should be doing right now, so the feds know any pushback will be costly, and you’re not breaking any laws anyway, remember?

Tell your state and local police we don’t work with the FBI or IRS in cooperation any more, and let the populace know the feds must individually enforce all tax law. That’s where it’s good for the Feds to remember that’s not required, and the 4th amendment prevents them being forced to act… in fact, that makes them subject to arrest for trying due to the laws of the great state of california.

All legal, and petty. But legal.

The state government would put forwards a local movement to secede from the US, and if it actually passed the federal government would butt in and go "you can't secede, that's completely illegal and unconstitutional" (it is), at which point the state would either go "oh well" and stand down or say "go suck eggs" and continue trying to secede, which the federal government would treat as rebellion or insurrection.

You need to amend the constitution which requires 38 states to agree to it that considering how many right wing states hate California doesn’t sound impossible

That's what the Civil War was about, there is no legal way to exit were one nation period end of story millions of dead soldiers proved it.

If a state tried to leave they would have to prove they could no matter the laws. It would be war. No ifs ands or buts. That means having a military that could take out the US military. Currently the top Airforce in the world is the US Airforce, the second largest Airforce is the US Navy, then it's Russia, then it's the US Army. Unless you can somehow convince the military to side with you when you leave, it's not going to happen. I would imagine if you tried to claim it legally the best you could hope for is Federal agents walking in the second said state gov claims independence, and idk arresting the heads of state for treason, and telling said state to elect a new gov.

It's not possible - you can check out but you can never leave

There is no process. States cannot just up and say "see ya" on their own, we fought a war over that.

If the people felt that it would be OK for a state to leave, the proper thing to do would be to pass an amendment stating a process, and then the state would do it. There would be a lot of details to hammer out: does the State get to keep Federal property (like military bases)? Does it inherit a share of the deficit? What happens to deferred US taxes on things like 401k accounts?

IMHO it would take so long to hammer that stuff out that it's basically impossible.

Why does that look like a photo of a bunch of Nazis?

It's a terrible idea, but so is invading Greenland, Canada, or Panama. We don't do such things anymore, read history why, but yet, here we are.

This is how a possible secession starts. Trump might prohibit California from doing this because it goes against his masters plan of destroying the US, California doesn't want to become a husk of it's former self and pushes through.

If California were to secede, it would immediately break the rest of the US. All the red states have been so poorly managed for decades that they near fully rely in handouts from successful states like California. With California gone, other blue and successful states would likely follow because they won't be able to pay the bill for those states either, splitting the US into a successful new country and dirt poor third world type theocratic dictatorship nation. Maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing, let the christo fascists live in the hell hole that they want

Secession(s) will likely include a civil war, and right now with the decade of trump shit causing division and chaos, I think that too isn't too far fetched anymore. There is nothing as horrible as neighbor fighting neighbors, ask Yugoslavia, but here we are in Trump's world.

Wouldn't MAGA supposedly be thrilled for California to leave?

I'm trying to imagine trumper militia marching into California saying, "we need to keep this liberal shithole and it's 54 blue electoral votes".

Yeah, it would be devastating for the US economy, but if MAGA has told us anything it's that they prefer to tank the economy than embrace any kind of diversity.

Well, they could make a deal to buy at a price adjusted for tariffs so it's a lower price then compensate for that with lower prices on CA exports you don't actually need to stop tariffs legally, they can be worked around the trick is trading something back that makes up the difference and costs less than the tariff to give.

The US does not need balkanization.

We have a single region that has been rebellious and trying to corrupt and destroy the rest of the union since the founding, because they cannot see any governmental or religious structure as legitimate unless it is founded on the principles of racism. This is their own words.

Lincoln was wrong to readmit the south, we should have let Sherman finish then build a wall around them, while letting any slaves who wanted to escape do so.

Either that or we need to restart reconstruction today with absolute brutality.

Before they committed treason against the US alone, this time they allied with Russia to bring us down.

The two heads representing the east and west coasts, obviously (please let us join you, California, when you go).