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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

Translation: You're not someone we can overwork so easily.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Lol dumbfuck.

[–] Doolbs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

FTAH==F**K THAT ASSHOLE

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Winning by whose definition?

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

His line going up.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 hours ago

If you're not willing to sacrifice your life and happiness for me then what do you think you're doing with your life?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago

Winning what? Profit for other people?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who devotes the majority of their life to their job is sort of a loser in my opinion.

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Unless it's something they're genuinely passionate about that gives them purpose, it's the saddest thing in the world. I don't think that describes the vast majority of us doing our mundane corporate slave work though.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Agreed. I've met some people who devoted their lives to work in nonprofits or public service who I would definitely not call losers. I wouldn't want to be their spouse, but I admire them.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

For me, winning is a job with flexible hours that let's me go home and do some garage work and then cook. I want vacation time and time to see the doctor. I want a good retirement plan and good coverage for the 3 bullshit doctor things... The body doc, the eye doc and the teeth doc. I want a doctor who enjoys work and is not simply seeing me and a thousand other people. I want cheap medicine that is effective. I want free analysis and no copay surprise. i want free hospital stays. I also want free schools k-12 and university for my kids. And I want free vaccines and freedom of speech without fear or retaliation. And I want diversity at my work, I don't wanna be the only black guy! Or the only Chinese or Korean or woman. And I want my job to not make things that hurt people.

[–] DistressedDad@lemmy.ca 1 points 54 minutes ago

This is it. When they forced us back into the office, it was less about afternoon naps and avoiding traffic. It was more about being able to see my dr that closes at 4pm or taking my elderly parents to their appointments. Cooking dinners to avoid takeout and getting ‘me’ time between zoom calls. They took that away from us. Now it’s 9-5 and not a minute more.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

"Jeez what a loser"

_- Asshole linkedin co-founder, probably

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I'll be joining the Dow people next week when it drops another 68 percent. They say it hurts less if you jump from the fifth floor or higher. But if you go too high like the 20th floor, you could have enough times to freakout. So you gotta find your Happy medium.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

We have different definitions of winning. If I never work for an asshole like you ever again, I win.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lol dumbass, I'm barely earning my participation trophy.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

If I even get a participation trophy, I'll probably skip the ceremony.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 17 hours ago

You're damn fucking right I'm not.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman should go eat glass. This is how his likely schedule looks:

8 am: Meetings (optional)

11 am: tax deductible "business" lunch

1 pm: meetings (optional)

6 pm: tax deductible "business" dinner

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 163 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

The rest of the context seems important

for founders and entrepreneurs: if you’re serious about starting a company.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Guess what kind of boss a person following this bullshit advice would make

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago

Not that I want to encourage this kind of life but with that context he is kinda right. Entrepreneurship is one of those areas where you genuinely get out what you put in. If you want your business to be better, you have to commit the time to it.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that’s honestly very true about starting a small business.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I dig it with context. I did the same thing in 2001 when I decided to go back to my original career of tile and flooring.

I got into IS/IT in 1998 after a decade in flooring and worked a couple jobs until I found some wicked smart programmers and they made a search engine while I was "adult supervision". Fact was, I bought my first suit in '99 and played businessman. It was typical dot-com startup energy, we had some crappy office space that I renovated with some help from my ex-employees on the construction side. Found some venture capital in our new smelling conference room. Bought a foosball and air hockey table. Some weird automatic coffee machine that never worked right. Hired a receptionist/office manager. Bought lunch every day from a takeout or delivery place on the company card. MANY late nights and we'd either chip in for dinner or I'd buy, because lets face it, I was riding their coattails. I could negotiate and write emails, I made sure the network stayed up and I was a good shit filter.

By mid 2001 we sold that search engine to a porn clip website which is since defunct. Not fuckyou money but definitely set the fortunes of the seven of us. Those six guys all went on to do various shit and by all measures are successful with a work/life balance. They all have families now and the kids are either grown or still in college. The only guy I really kept in touch with immediately went into a large university IT department, he's been there since. I took my money and went all-in with tile and flooring and I worked my ass off for 15 years. Stacked money, got a little lucky with mining bitcoin, and now I have a 401k and a mutual fund.

Now I work 40/week for another company and they know I can technically walk away any time I want at 54 years old. (note: the latest stock market shit may have weakened my position but I refuse to look during the panic period). It's fucking EASY compared to either the dot-com startup or the 15 years after that. I mean, I worked 16 hour days on dark, humid bathrooms just to finish on schedule. 70 hour weeks setting tile will really wear your ass out.

So I guess this is a long ass post to say, "I understand the grind, but you can't do it for 30 years. If you have an exit plan then grind away but if you don't see that brass ring in front of you stop killing yourself."

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you tried setting tile with your hands instead? Just a thought.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's actually a fair comment. Getting a new business off the ground, pretty much any business, is something that requires a big time commitment at the start.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Thanks, the fact that this the source is an American business magazine made me expect this wasn't meant for the underpaid and overworked.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Win a career, loose a family, mmh...

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Workers, at best, only get a tiny fraction of "winning" when it happens. Why should anyone destroy themselves for spoils that multimillionaire C-suites take for themselves?

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah fuck that, every fuckin job description I read these days with some variation of "ownership mindset" makes my blood boil, fuck this economy and fuck society I'm not having kids and see them go through the same rat race as me, let these cunts cry about lack of workers and demographic collapse

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Rooting for the collapse of this entire system is what sustains me.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And I think that's where the issue falls with this. People who found companies feel entitled to similar labor levels as their own

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Yup, they expect ordinary workers to put in the same amount of effort for a tiny salary compared to theirs which doesn't scale with the profits of the company, and when there are losses they lose their jobs while the people who made the decisions that led to the losses get to keep their jobs, fuck that shit.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I'm not even committed to competing to begin with.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just because he has no life doesn’t mean others shouldn’t have one. Boo this man.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Indeed, boo this man 👻

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Boo, Wendy Testaburger boo

[–] november@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 day ago

I don't give a fuck about winning, I want to be happy.

[–] Jehuty@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Objecting to alienation is lèse majesté, serfs! Labor for the labor god.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reid Hoffman can stick his tongue in my ass.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Sounds like little Trump. Winning!

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, it’s a flag, just not a red one.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

There is nothing inherently wrong with the grindset. Lots of people have extreme dedication to their craft (not me lol).
The grindset becomes an issue when you're giving someone else all of your time and they're taking advantage.