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Outrage builds as video shows Idaho police shooting a knife-wielding autistic teenager (apnews.com)
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Idaho police officers opened fire from behind a chain-link fence just seconds after exiting their patrol cars and critically wounded a teenage boy — described by his family as nonverbal, autistic and intellectually disabled — as he stepped toward them with a knife, video from a witness shows.

Seventeen-year-old Victor Perez, who also has cerebral palsy, remained hospitalized in critical condition Tuesday after having nine bullets removed from his body and having his leg amputated, Ana Vazquez, his aunt, told The Associated Press. Doctors were planning tests on his brain activity.

The shooting Saturday in Pocatello outraged the boy’s family and neighbors as well as viewers online who questioned why the officers opened fire within about 12 seconds of exiting their patrol cars while making no apparent effort to de-escalate the situation or use less lethal weapons. Dozens of protesters gathered outside the police department Sunday, eastidahonews.com reported.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There’s an effing fence. There was no person and no cop at any risk. How the ef would any reasonable person shoot?

Even if it were an actual aggressive person, actively threatening them, how would any person think deadly force was ok, on the other side of the effing fence?

And the dispatcher had said the kid was so impaired he couldn’t walk and may have stabbed himself? How is that a threat? Behind a fence?

Even if they’re a trigger happy moron looking for an excuse to murder “one of them”, how did they get to that point?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago

If they were reasonable people, then they would not be cops.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (7 children)

What kind of justification is there for emptying a whole magazine into a child? Even if the kid is running straight at you, legitimately threatening your life with a knife in a situation that I'm honestly struggling to justify here, a single bullet would do the trick.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

This is the same group of "warriors" (cops , i understand these are separate states) that mag dumped after an acorn fell on their car.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 14 points 6 days ago

Here's your answer:

My friends and I categorically refuse to visit states in red. During the pandemic, their refusal to use masks and vaccines resulted in their hospital capacity reaching critical conditions, and they had to export a ton of their sick and dying to Washington and Montana, among other states. This deferred care for resident cancer patients in those states.

Guess how they thanked the states that bailed their asses out come November 5th? If you guessed "crushing tariffs", you guessed right.

There are a few good souls there, but they have a disproportionately high number of extremely evil people.

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not only that, but he was on the other side of a flipping fence.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

Like hunting an animal in a cage, Don Jr style.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In a situation where you're using lethal force (e.g. a gun.) you aren't doing the minimum or doing disabling shots or sharpshooting the knife out of their hand, you are stopping the threat. This means center mass (torso) shots to minimize the chance that you miss and hit someone behind or near them (Like the two people were near the kid.), and you shoot until they stop being a threat. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug (and whatever other potential drugs folks can be on.) and can let folks shrug off a bullet if it isn't instantly killing them, hence the training on lethal force is shoot until they stop being a threat.

That said: Given that he hadn't even cleared the fence they had time to back up. IMO this was a preventable shooting and they likely could have had one officer pepper spray or tase him (Both have about 15 foot range.) while the others kept guns on him.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago

Shooting culture.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The station gives out an Arby's coupon every week to whoever scores the most kills.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Sitting in Arby's eating lunch. Who do I have to kill to get a coupon for a free lunch? I got some ideas.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

All these cops go into work itching for a kill.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

From what I can see, many American police officers seem to believe you have no reason to be alive if you don't submit to law.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

nine fucking bullets...jesus christ.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago

Killology training

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/11/police-training-warrior-mindset-killology/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Grossman_(author)

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago

Fucking cops are so incompetent that they plugged him nine times, and still didnt kill him. I'm picturing them crouching and cowering behind their cars, and just lifting up their gun over the hood and mag-dumping in the general direction with their eyes closed.

Dickheads can't even be incompetent correctly.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Opened fire from behind a chain link fence. ACAB

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

👮‍♂️ 👮‍♀️ 🔫 🙂

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I do find it interesting that 911 was told the person looked drunk. And had it been tgat, the actions still would have fit. And they still would have shot him. And it still would have been wrong. Mandatory police training. Nationwide.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

When thinking of calling the police on someone, you have to first ask yourself, "is this a situation where the significant chance of death to the person versus the amount of danger they pose to others is really a risk worth taking? Because there are definitely cases where the answer is clearly Yes. We don't want to let a victim get killed or raped or beaten by ignoring a threat, but we also don't want to get someone killed when what they're doing requires restraint, but not the death penalty.

But oftentimes the best course isn't clear. In a healthy society, we could call properly trained authorities worthy of being trusted to handle those situations, who would be trained on things like how to de-escalate, how to use only the amount of force actually necessary while ensuring people's safety, and who have been psychologically evaluated to weed out those with personality traits that would make them unsuitable for such a role.

But our police forces are not that--they are basically the exact opposite of that.

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