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Stumbled across this quick post recently and thought it was a really good tale and worth sharing.


A couple of weeks ago, I saw a tweet asking: "If Linux is so good, why aren't more people using it?" And it's a fair question! It intuitively rings true until you give it a moment's consideration. Linux is even free, so what's stopping mass adoption, if it's actually better? My response:

  • If exercising is so healthy, why don't more people do it?
  • If reading is so educational, why don't more people do it?
  • If junk food is so bad for you, why do so many people eat it?

The world is full of free invitations to self-improvement that are ignored by most people most of the time. Putting it crudely, it's easier to be fat and ignorant in a world of cheap, empty calories than it is to be fit and informed. It's hard to resist the temptation of minimal effort.

And Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

Now I totally understand why most computer users aren't interested in an intellectual workout when all they want to do is browse the web or use an app. They're not looking to become a black belt in computing fundamentals.

But programmers are different. Or ought to be different. They're like firefighters. Fitness isn't the purpose of firefighting, but a prerequisite. You're a better firefighter when you have the stamina and strength to carry people out of a burning building on your shoulders than if you do not. So most firefighters work to be fit in order to serve that mission.

That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

Besides, if you're able to figure out how to setup a modern build pipeline for JavaScript or even correctly configure IAM for AWS, you already have all the stamina you need for the Linux journey. Think about giving it another try. Not because it is easy, but because it is worth it.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I started using Linux as a liberal arts major in the late '90s. Both my grandparents (RIP) and my parents (partial RIP) kept having issues with Windows on their computers. I was constantly being called to help them with crap. 20+ years ago I asked if I could try something and they didn't care, as long as it worked. Debian and XFCE. Configured their email, hooked up the printer. Suddenly the service issues went from several times a month to once every 5+ years. And 90% of those issues just was clearing out the printer queue. I have never once understood the LiNuX iS OnlY FoR suPer TeCH NeRDS bullshit.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

You're right in that case - most "granny" users just need a browser and maybe a printer. Don't need Windows, you could probably run that on a Raspberry.

The catch is when they want more, like their VoIP App that only hat Mac and Windows installers, or some arcane HP scanner with 32 bit Windows 7 drivers. Or they are competent and want an actual full MS Office suite including Excel formulas and functions; Calc is still not on par. Or, kicker, if they actually need to exchange Office files with others without lossy conversions.

[–] ptu@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago

Everytime I’d installed Linux, I would run into having to run/copy paste random scripts here and there without any clue what I’m doing. Then after a few months it’s total carnage and I end up just logging into Windows. It might be much better now with LLM’s though. Also last time I was using my pc mostly to play CS:GO on FaceIt while chatting on Discord, which I was not able to do on linux.

[–] Puzzlehead@reddthat.com 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well android uses Linux I found out.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

Yes, I think the biggest hurdle for Linux is the tech crowd giving it a reputation for being difficult

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

because most people use what comes installed and apple and microsoft dominate that.

then again, considering apple is based on unix you could argue that anyone with apple does use a version of it

[–] andMoonsValue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

This is the obvious right answer. If computers shipped with Linux mint most consumers wouldn't notice the difference.

[–] DimFisher@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What issues are you all talking about? I m a Linux user for eleven years now, the only issues you may have with them are only in the beginning when everything is not installed or sometimes not everything is perfectly installed and set up, once you finish with that you may get bored by how extremely stable they are, you just do your work and that's it, and they stay like that forever, the only reason people are using windows is because they are pre installed, that's the only truth.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

when everything is not installed or sometimes not everything is perfectly installed and set up

I guess that'd be a major blocker for most people.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair, i installed linux on an old laptop and i just cannoy get the wifi to be reliable. I found myself reading about the minutia of intel wifi drivers and how wifi works in detail just to try tonsolve this issue.

I outright gave up on getting a printer to work.

This is an unrealistic experience for most people who just need a tool that works. Life is too short.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

To be fair, i installed linux on an old laptop and i just cannoy get the wifi to be reliable. I found myself reading about the minutia of intel wifi drivers and how wifi works in detail just to try tonsolve this issue.

I had this exact experience. I tried multiple distros too. In the end I had to go back to windows because that's the only way the wifi worked short of replacing hardware and it just wasn't worth that.

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[–] DimFisher@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There are thousands of distros out there, pick another, I m sure one of them will work with WiFi just fine

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

See, that's an adventure for months of late night tinkering.

Or just boot Windows and it will auto detect everything just fine. Done and done.

Not everyone is an adventurer. Most people just want to get on with it.

[–] cortex7979@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What if I need a program that is only available for windows?

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 10 hours ago

If such an awful thing ever happpened to me in my personal life I'd change my needs.

In work of course I'm fucked, by stupidity rather than needs of course, but at least that's only for 37.5 hours a week.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Like what? They all have linux versions, alternatives or work with wine, the main issue is sub based window ones since the way they verify licenses often has issues with wine. Im assuming you're missing out on adobe or autodesk stuff?

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If the programs cpu heavy its suprisingly not that hard to setup windows qemu whatever its called, it opens windows app as native linux windows even tho its an emulation it looks cleaner, but I had issues getting my gpu to work and even if it does I think your linux screen goes black when in use, it was just a hassle and trying to connect the gpu made me need to reset my linux install since my discrete gpu wouldnt work and I had no idea why. Worked fine til I tried to connect my discrete gpu and is very useful for cpu based programs.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This is not straightforward for the average user. There's plenty of commercial or niche software that has no real alternative in Linux land. CAD being one - and I'm well aware of freecad, and I love it, but it ain't a pro tool yet.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah cad is not something ive ever messed with, I've heard it prevents many from swapping to Linux

[–] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What average user uses CAD? I think you are conflating what an average user requires.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Type of user that uses/ want to swap to linux is more likely to be into cad compared to the average window user, just more tech related hobbies

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 16 hours ago

The app may be windows only, but it can often help to ask for alternative. And not things like "What can I use in Linux that is the same as under Windows". More along the lines of "I need to create or do . In Windoze I used , how do I get the same work done under Linux". Sometimes you don't have much of a choice, go emulation layer or VM, but often you can find a different path to the same result and once you get used to it, it's often a better solution.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
  1. You may not actually need that app. There are many alternatives to Windows-only apps. 95% of the time, I use those. Web apps or Linux native apps.

or 2) you switch back to Windows when you really need that one app. Odds are, over time, you realize it's actually #1.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago

I'm in the same boat, adobe can get fucked

[–] tableflip5@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

compatibility layers makes 99% software work

or try a virtual windows instance if performace is not critical

[–] lapping6596@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I add it to my steam library as a local program and rely on proton. So far works perfect with no effort on my end.

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