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It's not a surprise that all these techbros who want to steal everything and feed it into their AI machines without paying a single fucking cent to the original creators all the sudden want to get rid of IP. They can lead by example by submitting their IP into the public domain.
Or maybe they're just massive frauds?
This is of course after they spent decades consolidating power, wealth and influence with those same IP laws, while snuffing out all smaller competitors.
The speed with which Americas tech CEOs have embraced this new oligarchic system is astounding. It's almost like that was the plan all along. Almost.
I’m cool with it. I think we should require almost everything to be public domain. But I think those personally contributing to the public domain should be recognized, and no one should be allowed to get rich off of it.
You're cool with it until you realize that they only want to do this to personally gain from it. And guaranteed will protect their own IP, and the IP of every large corporation.
It's just that you yourself and small businesses will no longer have the benefit of intellectual property. Megacorps can steal whatever they want with impunity since they are the only true holders of intellectual property.
That sounds good on paper until you look at the long history of these people and how everything they do is entirely focused on their own benefit over that of others. They gain something to win here, guaranteed they aren't going to let themselves lose on anything either.
It's the same sort of situation as AI regulation. Sam Altman and openai want the United States to crack down and make it extremely difficult to develop new models. Why? So that they don't have any competition. They already got their foot in the door they want to close the door for anyone else.
This is very likely the same sort of situation.
The libertarians want everything for free. Interesting.
And the second they get it, they reinvent IP law, but in an even more restricted form.
The current US trade war is the perfect opportunity for some other country or countries to "right-size" their IP laws.
Hollywood wanted "lifetime plus 900 years" or whatever. So, whenever the US negotiated a trade deal it said "you only get tariff-free access to our markets if you give Hollywood lifetime plus 900 years in your country too."
With section 1201 of the DMCA this also meant that other countries had to accept that you could only repair your John Deere tractor if you paid Deere for the privilege. Or that HP could prevent you from using any ink but theirs in your printer, allowing them to make printer ink the most expensive liquid on the planet.
If the US is no longer abiding by the terms of their trade agreements, other countries should no longer honor these absurd IP treaties.
Yes, I’m fully aware we want to abolish IP law for different reasons but still, I’m onboard.
I think ip laws are important but need to be changed. One example are things that are funded by tax dollars. They can’t own the ip of something we funded even if partially funded. Maybe let them hold the ip until they recoup their cost.
I also think that it is OK for companies to have ip, but it needs to be shorter. Like, they get 10 years or they earn 10x their cost on developing it.
Im not saying my exact ideas are perfect, but just an example of how ip should not last for as long as it does.
Musk is out to delete all laws that don't benefit him, and replace them with harsh private rules that are not accountable to the people.
Disney has entered the chat
You know, Disney is an awful mega corporation, but wow would I love to see them turn on this administration with their full ire. The mouse v swasticars
If Elon agrees with anything… run.
That's probably better than what we have now, but still very short of ideal. Here's my proposition:
That would solve most of the problems while keeping the vast majority of the benefits.
Also, patents shouldn’t be filable once prior art exists.
Aka Nintendo patenting game mechanics 30 years after the fact to try and sue Palworld.
Also game mechanics and UI features being tied to existing functionality (Amazon’s “one click”, Apple’s “swipe to unlock”) should not be considered novel.
Now that it interferes with me I'm against it. As soon as it's absence causes me any grief I'll be for it again.
A rare Musk win. Broken clock, I suppose
Except that the entire premise of this is to allow ai unfettered and unrestricted access to the creations of anyone without any repercussions. And allow AI companies to copy and recreate the works of others without attribution.
Solely to benefit those owners, at the cost of everyone else.
Also guaranteed that this will be one of those situations where IP laws will be removed for everyone except those who stand benefit from this.
So overall there is nothing actually good or winning about this.
These people are threats to our actual lives.
Isn't Hollywood going to unleash armies of lawyers on them?
Avoiding tax loopholes and fair taxation for billionnaires could also be considered. Just saying. Otherwise I think that the idea of deleting all IP laws is just wishful (and naive) thinking, assuming people would cooperate and build on each other’s inventions/creations.
Given the state the world is currently in, I don’t see that happening soon.
Disney vs the tech brats. Jumbish, bring me the popcorn
Hard yes. Glad to see there's at least one thing we are aligned on.
I'm curious: why?
Removing IP law just feels like it would only benefit those with the resources to scale new technology quickly. It basically kills all start ups.
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Nah copyright is useful for free software. Patents, we could probably live without patents
Trademark is also useful. I don't want Tyson making fake vegan hot dogs
Yeah bullshit they want to delete IP law. Go ahead and copy Square, Xhitter, Tesla, SpaceX, etc and watch them explode.
