I have an infinite number of rooms, so I'm putting two monkeys in each room with two typewriters.
Now I can do it in half the time.
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Yeah, but since an infinite number of monkeys are working on it already, it will be just one copy for each of the infinite number of monkeys.
Two new monkeys show up, and even though the infinite rooms and infinite typewriters are already occupied, you can make room for them by making all of the monkeys move over one room, and putting the new monkeys in that newly vacant room with the newly available typewriters.
Omg I just read about that the other day but I'm too stupid and forgetful... Something about the existence of inf + 1
The monkeys now have sex with each other non stop. You're now going at 10% of the speed you were previously.
Is that an actual sentence?
892 trillion years sounds like a minuscule amount of time to wait for a string that long.
Like you already got unbelievably lucky.
But arent there infinite monkeys? You should have already seen it written an infinite amount of times in 892 trillion years
Perhaps it's in the monkey's psychology that they'd never hit the keys that much before just destroying it all. They're a pretty poor pick for a random value generator.
Not necessarily. There are an infinite number of positive numbers, but -13 will never be one of them. Ergo, even with infinite possibilities, you still may not see a particular combination (even if it does fit the criteria; my metaphor is imperfect).
As written this guy only has one monkey.
If you have an infinite amount of monkeys and they're all typing truly randomly, then an infinite number of them would get it correct on the first try. Which is sort of weird to think about lol.
Most people don't get the thought experiment at all.
I've seen 300+ deep comment chains on reddit with people arguing bitterly back and forth if a monkey could even operate a typewriter, and how it's absolutely impossible to get monkeys to type out a book, etc, etc, etc.
I hate it here.
I think too many people don't consider the monkey is not supposed to be making decisions, it's just supposed to be inputting anything, literally anything, on a typewriter.
Like a random value generator, for typewriter keys.
You could get the same result throwing an infinite number of typewriters down an infinitely long mineshaft, but there will be even fewer people who would understand it 😭
Worse, creationists use the "watch maker's paradox" as evidence of creation. Same idea but watch parts in a washing machine.
What about a rock formation that happened to be a sun dial?
The thought experiment is about how wrist watches are incredibly complex and hand crafted machines so if you dissemble one and put all the parts in a clothes dryer you won't get a watch back. (I believe given infinite time and random movements you would eventually get a watch.)
I have argued with plenty of theists, they tend to cherry-pick parts of every idea to validate their extreme fear of death/God, so they hyper-fixate on the idea that "fantastic things" can happen with infinities, without addressing the problems that also come from infinities.
The idea behind the monkeys/typewriters thought experiment is to highlight just how problematic actual infinities would be in our universe, it's an argument against things like gods occuring, because in an infinite, unbounded universe there would be an infinite number of infinitely powerful beings negating each other all out over large enough scales.
I mean, if they are actually monkeys who don't know to type, some of them will still press keys once or twice. And if there's infinite monkeys, they will still type it out.
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The funny thing is, if you truly have infinite monkeys, it doesn't matter if they're using it correctly or not. There is an infinite amount of them.
Some infinities are bigger than others, though.
Even if you have countably infinite monkeys typing countably infinite strings for an infinite period of time, there will be an infinite number of strings that the monkeys haven't typed, that will never be in the set of completed typed strings.
Cantor's diagonalization proves it.
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We are IN the timeline where a monkey wrote Shakespeare. That monkey was Shakespeare.
Weird, what a coincidence
Not really, an almost infinite number of non-shakespeare monkeys came before him and also didn't happen to write the entire works of shakespeare.
it was actually a significantly lower amount of monkeys than infinity
I mean it was bound to happen at some point
Yeah, it's weird how nobody talks about the trillions of trillions of plays Shakespeare wrote that are complete gibberish.
Hey! I liked Romeo and Djrurleltkitshsnmqlaapj
He was an ape
Did you know a monkey can write Shakespeare's work using this simple trick (millions of years of evolution)?
Yeah but did he do it with a typewriter? Didn't think so
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I'm starting a 2nd order monkey typing business attempting to use a bigger infinity of monkeys to eventually recreate the works of the first set of infinite monkeys.
Since monkeys tend to hit the same keys repeatedly, rather than trying them all out at random, I'd say your second order monkey business is actually more likely to succeed than the first set of monkeys ever typing out Shakespeare is.
That which we call a gyatt by any other name would skibidi rizz just AF. No cap.
We are the monkeys.
We wrote it all.
Even Skibidi toilet.
As an IT guy, there will always be a special place in my heart for the awesome person who wrote a protocol suite for this use case (it is a lot of fun to read):
There are quite a few April Fool RFCs, but this one is definitely one of my favourites. This one and RFC 1149 (A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers).
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The reference:
The defeater is each key needs to be statistically as likely as any other key to be pressed next, i.e. statistically independent events. For example after a monkey pressed S they are then just as likely to press K as W. If there is any reason they prefer a key or sequence you don't get a normal distribution and they probably will never create any of Shakespeare's works.
You don't need a normal distribution or statistical independence. It just requires that any given key combination remain possible.
No matter how unlikely, anything that is possible will eventually happen in an infinite time.
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https://app.thestorygraph.com/books/2fd66245-5a4e-48ff-a1e0-1519ac95737d
A short stay in hell
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