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Hi everyone, so I hear that a lot of are lost in choosing a good search engine apart from the popular ones, but I think I have the solution

The search engine I've been using on all my devices is named "Qwant" its French and of course European. Its private and fast, I've been using it and didn't had any issues with it.

So yes I am also new here on Lemmy and just wanted to be useful.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It has pretty good results in my experience.

Brave search also does, but it always wants me to complete captchas so I'm not using it anymore.

[–] pirat@lemmy.studio 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Matt@lemdro.id 2 points 1 hour ago

Brave Search is separate from the browser. I use it in Firefox.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

SearXNG is the best of ALL worlds. You can get results from every search engines, there’s no ads, and it’s self-hostable

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

With a private searxng instance searches still come from your single IP so if you use ie; google, bing, etc.. You're still being tracked heavily.

Unless you use a public instance where your searches are 'lost in the noise'. But then most of the search engines will block it so it doesn't work very well in my experience.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in learning-mode here, so forgive me if this is a dumb question: if I have my home server connect to a VPN for all outbound traffic, would that mitigate your issue with "your single IP". Would that make it so the IP they see is my VPN provider's, not mine? Thanks for any info

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Thats better if you have your VPN change IP often, and also because VPN IPs are shared (unless you pay for a unique static IP) which means more noise in the traffic.

But if you have a dedicated VPN IP, it's basically the same then because your data can be tied to you at that IP.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Noted, and thanks!

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

Obligatory "check out Kagi"

[–] jachymx@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

i really like 4get, it's proxy, and it has scrapers from most search engines available

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

Immediate captcha on my first search lol.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

if you think that qwant is private, qwant has some bad news for you ☞ https://about.qwant.com/en/legal/confidentialite/

they share your information with Microsoft even with "No consent"

this is not the first time i see these promotional qwant posts here. Either qwant is getting these posted or people who claim to care about privacy don't read PRIVACY POLICY

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

to be fair, that only happens when you click on one of the ads, which i think is fair

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 26 minutes ago

i see that you haven't read their linked Privacy policy

To provide relevant results when we do not have the answers to your queries ourselves, we have a partnership with Microsoft to provide our search results and contextual ads based on the entered keywords and your geographic region.

For this purpose, Qwant can transfer the following pseudonymized data to this partner related to your query:

 Search keywords,
 Information about the browser you are using,
 The first three bytes of your IP address or, in the case of a User Account, the IP address,
 The approximate geographic area originating the search on a regional or city level,
 The salted hash generated from your IP address, User Agent, and a salt changing at least every 3 months,
 A random token generated by Qwant (aiming to limit data cross-referencing).

Additionally, for the security and reliability of our partner’s services (spam detection, automated activity, fraudulent ad clicks), Qwant may also collect and transfer your full IP address to this partner.

Finally, as part of providing new features, Qwant shares your IP address with Microsoft to provide you with contextual ads and better search results.

[–] Tapionpoika@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

I don't like that searxng says no tracking, yes the app itself has none, but the backend search providers still track the requests from the instance IP, so if you're the only user I don't understand how it's any better than just using google/bing/etc directly with ublock origin.

[–] passenger@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Ecosia has it's own index with qwant so this is not entirely correct

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

they are working on their own index with Qwant, they current still both use Bing

[–] passenger@lemm.ee 0 points 13 hours ago

I have understood they use their own index already, like Qwant, and Bing to add to it.

[–] Star@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Ecosia also has AI answers and bangs, you can use #g to redirect to Google for example.

[–] Lennarthellman@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

Also, with qwant you can just use bangs.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago

I don't know if it's accurate to describe Qwant as "private." There is a bit to be desired with their privacy policy, such as them apparently sending your IP address to Microsoft

https://about.qwant.com/en/legal/confidentialite/

There's also this bizarre section

If you have not consented or are not subject to the Services offered, we automatically collect technical data... Salted hash of the IP address..., market segment of a query, date and time of the visit, information about the country and chosen language...

Anonymized by Microsoft after 6 months.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Qwant is pretty good, but I like my self-hosted SearX better.

[–] standarduser@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

SearxNG is the shit

[–] MOARbid1@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I tried switching to Qwant, but was forced to complete a captcha for every search. It drove me nuts, so I went back to DuckDuckGo.

[–] CrowyTech@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been using Qwant for about a month now on Vivaldi. I'm happy and see no reason to go back to Google full time. What I do miss from Google though is things like showing business opening times when searching

[–] azha@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Yea I am also using Vivaldi too and I really like the freedom of customizations and its also European which is a huge plus and its privacy focused. I think Qwant and Vivaldi makes a great internet browsing experience in my opinion.

i have been liking Qwant

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

anyone know what their plans are exactly in terms of switching away from bing?

also altough I smile everytime im not using google or bing directly anymore while getting these amazing results with that nice qwant UI:

it's image search is my biggest complaint usecase wise. the results are small, non-scalable and theres no similar search upon focusing one result

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

anyone know what their plans are exactly in terms of switching away from bing?

They are working with Ecosia to build their own, shared search index, rather than be reliant on the corporate ones.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks exactly what I was looking for. I wish they'd give more updates 😅

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 5 hours ago

As I understand, it's no small task to build or maintain a working search index. There's a reason it's mostly been huge, corporate entities that take on the challenge, and why smaller search providers tend to rely on preexisting ones.

So I applaud Qwant and Ecosia on their initiative, but also understand that it may take a while before it bears fruit.