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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 2 points 39 minutes ago

Found a thread doing numbers on Bluesky, about Google's AI summaries producing hot garbage (as usual):

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Show HN: AI Paying with Bitcoin and Lightning – A Working Demo

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43770953

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

@o7___o7 @BlueMonday1984 hey cool they made something that absolutely nobody wants or will ever use

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

A service that gives a bullshit engine unsupervised access to the irreversible-transaction machine? What could possibly go wrong?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (5 children)

pic of tweet reply taken from r/ArtistHate. Reminded me of Saltman's Oppenheimer tweet. Link to original tweet

image/tweet descriptionOriginal tweet, by @mark_k:

Forget "Black Mirror", we need WHITE MIRROR

An optimistic sci-fi show about cool technology and hot it relates to society.

Attached to the original tweet are two images, side-to-side.

On the left/leading side is (presumably) a real promo poster for the newest black mirror season. It is an extreme close-up of the side of a person's face; only one eye, part of the respective eyebrow, and a section of hair are visible. Their head is tilted ninety degrees upwards, with the one visible eye glazed over in a cloudy white. Attached to their temple is a circular device with a smiling face design, tilted 45 degrees to the left. The device itself is mostly shrouded in shadow, likely indicating the dark tone for which Black Mirror is known, as well as a reference to the many neural interface devices seen throughout the series. Below the device are three lines of text: "Plug back in"/"A Netflix Series"/"Black Mirror"

On the right side is an LLM generated imitation of the first poster. It appears to be a woman's 3/4 profile, looking up at 45 degrees. She is smiling, and her eyes are clear. A device is attached to her face, but not on her temple, instead it's about halfway between her ear and the tip of her smile, roughly outside where her upper molars would be. The device is lit up and smiling, the smile aligned vertically. There are also three lines of text below the device, reading: "Stay connected"/"A Netflix Series"/"Black Mirror"

Reply to the tweet, by @realfuzzylegend:

I am always fascinated by how tech bros do not understand art. like at all. they don't understand the purpose of creative expression.

about cool technology and how it relates to society

My dude I've got bad news for you about what Black Mirror is about.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Vacant, glassy-eyed, plastic-skinned, stamped with a smiley face... "optimistic"

I mean, if the smiley were aligned properly, it would be a poster for a horror story about enforced happiness and mandatory beauty standards. (E.g., "Number 12 Looks Just Like You" from the famously subtle Twilight Zone.) With the smiley as it is, it's just incompetent.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 2 points 43 minutes ago

"The man in the glowing rectangle is Mark Kretschmann, a technology enthusiast who has grown out of touch with all but the most venal human emotions. Mark is a leveller, in that he wants to drag all people down to his. But as Mark is about to discover, there's no way to engineer a prompt for a map out of... the Twilight Zone."

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 6 points 2 hours ago

need to see those proposed community notes

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 2 hours ago

We have that already, it's called ads.

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 3 hours ago

Why are all the stories about the torment nexus we’re constructing so depressing?

Hmm, hmm. This is a tricky one.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

exploitation-offshorer "Nick Huber" (@sweatystartup) finds that the leopards will, in fact, also eat his face. but still takes it as a fine opportunity to pitch his exploitation:

screenshot of tweets, transcript below

(I guess at least his account name is directionally accurate? indicates willingness to induce sweatshops...)

tweet 1I was pro tariffs.

Until about 30 of our clients at Somewhere dot com cancelled searches over the past three weeks. Hiring freezes all over the place.

Hit me in the pocket book already.

REMOVE TARIFFS.


tweet 2By the way:

If you want to hire folks internationally for 80% less than US employees, check out somewhere[.]com or send me a DM for a discount.


[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

This might be tangential/way off-topic and more MoreWrite material than stub, but anyhoo:

Acronym-based misinformation campaigns I would like to seed:

  1. Internet debate clubs should start using “ASMR” to mean “A steel man risk”
  2. Opus dei, the absolutely real sect of the catholic church most famous for being the villains in the fiction IP “the Da Vinci Code”, is in fact the DEI branch of the catholic church.
  3. The company KFC has been commissioned by the Chinese Government to use FLG in its marketing, standing for “finger licking good” to drop Fa Lun Gong in search rankings for FLG.

If I think of more I’ll post them.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

LMFAO, best known for "Party Rock Anthem", is actually a failed leftist yodaist sect, standing for the warning "Leopards, my face, ate off"

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

took me 3 tries to read "yodaist" correctly (brain kept going s/d/g/ which, well..)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 4 hours ago

I thought of the old sneerclub/ssc poster (def not a regular on the former, while a former regular on the latter) yodatsracist

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Personally id not use disinformation as a tool. It is what got us into this mess, and you are also helping the actual goal of the flooding the zone with misinformation tactic. People stop believing in things.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Ok, that's fair enough. The framing of "misinformation [...] I would like to seed" was just there to frame the bits. I don't really want these bits to take off.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago

Allright, let me put my 'warnings for young demonologists' guidebook to the side. ;).

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 20 hours ago

for the betterment of muddled waters, I suggest a secondary meaning for opus dei - a WIP codec that the xiph group hasn't really released yet, because they're not sure it fully enough mutes maga voices

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 23 hours ago

Semi-OT: Ed Zitron's Better Offline podcast just won a Webby:

[–] rook@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

This is an absolutely fascinating selection of people to have speaking at your event.

How TheLightGetsInHAY 2025THE WORLD'S LARGEST PHILOSOPHY & MUSIC FESTIVALSPEAKERS STEVEN PINKER | LIONEL SHRIVERSLAVOJ LIZEK | JEREMY CORBYNSHASHI THAROOR | CLAUDIA DE RHAM | ROGER PENROSEJORDAN STEPHENS | NICOLA STURGEON | YANIS VAROUFAKISRICHARD TICE | INAYA FOLARIN 'IMAN | CARLO ROVELLROBERT SAPOLSKY | MYRIAM FRANÇOIS | BARBARA TVERSKY PAUL BLOOM | CATHERINE LIU | ALENKA ZUPANCIC MALCOLM RIFKIND | MICHELLE TERRY | HILARY LAWSONROMAN YAMPOLSKIY | JO DUNKLEY | JESSE NORMAN | AARON BASTANIKARL FRISTON | AARON MATÉ | ALYSSA NEY | IVETTE FUENTES

Whilst looking for an easily cut'n'pasted list for alt-text purposes, I discover it is even worse than it looks, because there are folk like Gad Saad too who don't get an entry on the poster for whatever reason. To steal someone else's summary, "just look at this fucking parade of grifters, scammers and out-and-out Russian assets".

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I opened the site for it and browsed a bit, my first thought being something like “christ, the worst of glamper festivals”, shortly after followed by “god this like is like if the worst of burning man fucked TED”

then, bottom of the “music & performances” page:

Europe’s answer to TED

gnnnnnnngh

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 22 hours ago

god this like is like if the worst of burning man fucked TED

Burning man portrayed famously by Anna Gunn

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The only one I've met is Carlo Rovelli, at the APS March Meeting in 2019. We work in adjacent topics, but I don't travel much. I know people who know him better, and I haven't heard stories of him being horrible, for whatever that's worth. He does come across as a bit of an eager self-promoter. I can easily imagine him accepting an invitation on the "a gig's a gig" principle.

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 4 points 21 hours ago

I did read one of Carlo's pop sci books back in the day, was a nice read. Iirc he's like one of the dudes all in on loop quantum gravity. Bet you'd know more about this than I do 😅

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 21 hours ago

Cursed bizzaro bonaroo

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Putting philosophy talks at a music festival is one of those ideas you come up with to try and sound smart, cool, and edgy, but as a high schooler who has never done drugs nor been to a live show before.

Anyway I went through the lineup summaries on the wikipedia page, two notes:

  1. No Jay Shetty! His particular brand of grift philosophy and thinly veiled clout chasing would fit in exactly at this sort of event. Then again, this festival might actually be beneath him, as he hangs out with hollywood a-listers.
  2. The lineup noticeably hits its turning point into a nosedive when they start hosting Pinker in 2018.
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

'nightmare blunt roration' as people say. See the greyzone is also present.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

as in the tankies? i don't see blumenthal in there

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

ah okay, it's been a while since they were relevant

grayzone, the: low quality disinformation source constantly praising putin and assad while downplaying their warcrimes and amplifying conspiracy theories favourable to these two. not to be confused with greyzone, a wagner group associated telegram channel

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ah my bad, i always mess the spelling of gray/grey up.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 2 hours ago

weirder thing is that blumenthal (american) uses british spelling, and russians (where british english was taught more commonly when it was relevant for them? i think?) used american spelling

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Philosophy & Music" are indeed two categories of things that share one letter between them.

Feel very happy to recognise only Corbyn and Penrose by name, no idea what any of them are doing there.

I mean, I know who Penrose was, but from the context I assume he's probably acutely suffering from Nobel Disease and I have zero idea what he's been up to outside of physics.

And isn't Corbyn just a boring lefty UK politician? Does he have like a philosophy background or something?

[–] rook@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Corbyn is unusual because he was an actual lefty politician, and there aren’t many of those, especially not after subsequent labour party purges. The weirder one is Rifkind, who was a politician alongside Thatcher, but sometimes disagreed with her soft and centrist views. Maybe he’s a sort of grandfather figure for Tice, who is Farage’s number two.

Weird mix of wingnuts. Probably all united by their transphobia, though.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 3 points 1 hour ago

Corbyn is, like, famously bad at recognising bad faith fascist signalling, so it doesn't not make sense.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, I know who Penrose was, but from the context I assume he’s probably acutely suffering from Nobel Disease and I have zero idea what he’s been up to outside of physics.

He is busy being 93 fucking years old, lol

And isn’t Corbyn just a boring lefty UK politician? Does he have like a philosophy background or something?

They probably couldn’t get Bernie.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

If Penrose followed his trajectory from 30 years ago, he is now a radical anti AGI person but because he thinks human minds work on quantum effects.

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