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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wasn't it that same episode where Rom basically says word for word that he doesn't support unions because one day he might own Quark's bar and then he'll be able to oppress people too? What a great show, some people dislike the ferengi episodes but they're some of my favorites in the series.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who could dislike the Ferengi episodes??

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ikr? Some people hate 'em. They're really goofy and cartoonish so I guess I get it. Profit and Lace is pretty tough to watch. The Magnificent Ferengi is my personal favorite (Iggy Pop guest stars too, what a treat!) And I quote the Rules of Acquisition in real life somewhat regularly, heh

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

People with the same mindset as Ferengi and who don't like to be called out for their shit.

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What the UAW is doing here is fighting for all workers. This sets precedents that ripple across all industries. What formed the UAW back in 1937 took some balls, and so does this.

It's not communism to fight for dignity and a living wage. We're practically fighting for some more table scraps, but the rich are acting like we're threatening social fabric.

Go and get it Shawn, this is exactly what we all need right now. Support the UAW.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

In the last 20 years, we've seen the most rapid rise in productivity since the industrial revolution, and just like in the wake of the industrial revolution, there was massive worker exploitation that led to reforms and eventually unionization that ushered in a golden age of labor in America where workers were fairly compensated for the work they provided, so much so that it was easy for a salaryman to support a nuclear family on his single paycheck.

Since then, the business owner class has been working hard to dismantle unions while refusing to pay their fair share of the massive profit windfalls to the bottom rung workers. We are long overdue for sweeping multi-industry unionization effort. Only then will we start seeing something more than just table scraps.

[–] theuberwalrus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Fighting for dignity actually is literally communism. It's capitalist propaganda that has you convinced otherwise.

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Communism provides a theoretical framework to advocate for those things, but it is not the same as doing those things. I think the distinction is important because it allows you to have a plurality or support

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[–] seeCseas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Only problem with this is that this doesn’t even hurt the ultra rich - every catastrophe is just a new investment opportunity for them. E.g. after Brexit they just moved their money and businesses out of the UK, leaving the poor schlebs who live there to deal with it.

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[–] notsure@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

How does the working class not realise that the wealthy are the sodden bitch in a bog handing out the sword? Jeeebus

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even China knows this. Give the hard working people a better job than mom and dad had and they won't rebel.

The people who are rolling in their next billion have forgotten what happens when you take that away.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are in the economic industrial boom that already happened to western countries decades ago. The problem is that eventually all booms end

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

That is just buying into accepting the current model where the rich can have it all at the expense of the poor. The model is the problem not the amount we have to distribute.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China is about to find out as well, they have something like a 30% new-grad unemployment rate, and Pooh Bear is on a bootstraps kick saying that social protections encourage laziness.

They're on even thinner ice than the US.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I mean we all know what "didn't" happen last time students got together in protest. Whatever became of the Hong Kong protest btw?

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Billionaires the original welfare queens.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I vote for wrecking the rich's yachts. There's even a great capitalist reason to do it: the companies that build them might make new sales! Win-win!

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Do a new Boston Tea Party except this time we launch barrels of tea at yachts.

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[–] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's red hot commie stuff right there. I like it :)

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[–] Transcriptionist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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X/Twitter post by user Teddy Ostrow @TeddyOstrow reading '"In their economy, workers live paycheck to paycheck while the billionaires buy another yacht... So we're gonna wreck their economy cuz it only works for the billionaire class," says @UAW prez Shawn Fain in Detroit.'

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[–] bert@lemmy.monster 1 points 2 years ago

I'm happy to see this transcription "service" here on Lemmy. Thank YOU!

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Way to go. Bring them down on their knees. Force them to share. They've proven they will never share the wealth with the workers unless forced to.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That is something I wonder about. Inflation makes the poor poorer but when asked, economists are like "trust us, inflation is good".

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Inflation reduces the value of money at the bank: the money saved as well as the money borrowed.

In an ideal world, wages are indexed on inflation (way of calculating inflation in this context can be discussed), and inflation is kept above present targets levels (central banks try to keep it at 2% these days).

That makes your debts easier to reimburse, and limits returns on savings. Have you ever noticed that people who keep talking about the "value of work" actually push for low wages and no or low taxes on capital gains, so actually wants the capital to make more money than work?

A low inflation allows big money to hoard more and more. Higher inflation means money that's not actively contributing to the economy will lose its value over time, and that's exactly what you, at the bottom of the ladder, want (and considering top of the ladder is hundreds of billions of $, ever 6 figures employees are bottom of the ladder).

Too high inflation leads to an uncontrolled spiral. Deflation is also very bad (no investment will ever happen if your money just appreciate by doing nothing). But the 2% target is not to protect you. It's made for money to make more money.

But about the link between wages and inflation: what we have today is a situation where we let cost of life dramatically outpace wage growth. So where did the inflation come from? Profits! That needs to be rebalanced.

From 1945 to the early 80's (before the €), France and some other countries minmum wages were indexed on inflation. If doing so would instantly crash an economy, we would have noticed...

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

A small amount is good. Deflation makes it so not spending money is more beneficial. The longer you wait to spend the more the money is worth. This causes fewer products and services to be purchased, which pays for wages. Inflation makes the opposite true. The longer you wait to spend your money the less it's worth. It encourages spending, not saving. Inflation that outstrips increases to pay is obviously very bad though.

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