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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Giving everyone 5k would more meaningfully improve birth rates than asking educated young people worried about their future childrens' standard of living to take a leap for the cost of one small medical emergency.

[–] littlebrother@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I can't tell if sarcasm or not. But no this won't do anything.

Russia/Asian countries do this already it has barely any effect at all. Again it comes down to both money and culture. Can't throw money at a problem without changing the culture you're just half assing it.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

5000 is genuinely nothing when it comes to raising a child.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So that's $5k per month, right? Right?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

What's interesting is 5000$ today is about 129$ in 1860.

Slaves were, on average, worth about 800 bucks in those times. I'm not sure how much a baby would be worth, but even if it comes to a quarter of what a full grown slave is worth... that means that they literally think we are worth less than slaves...

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

After we had our first child we went to some institutions to fill required papers. In the waiting area, there were informational posters everywhere to tell people to not get pregnant too early. One read:

A child costs you 160.000 € until its 18th birthday
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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sybilvane@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

Orphan to foster care to homeless to prison to free labor pipeline.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Place where I live also gives about the equivalent of 5000 USD for a birth. My wife got a single room in the hospital (very basic public hospital, but not a room with 4 other mothers). The 5k just about covered the medical costs for the pregnancy, birth and the additional cost for the room for 3 days ...

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sadly, I could see this convincing people desperate enough for cash...

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Those poor fucking kids.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I saw ads before Christmas incentivizing people to refinance car loans and get cash in hand :<

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only among the very stupid

So half the population

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How the fuck much are they making that it is still worth it after taking $40k off the top?

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

It's probably in NYC or San Fran if that's for one kid. Both parents could reasonably make 100-200k around there.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What's a baby cost? $5,000?

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

But the orange leader said that tariffs will pay for child care

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Where is all this daycare money going? My daycare was like 8 ladies that just sat around in a playroom doing arts and crafts with us all day and took us to the pool and library in summer. They could have covered that on 2/3 kids each at 40k a year/kid. They didn't seem to be particularly well off...

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