Meta whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams says company targeted ads at teens based on their ‘emotional state’
[...] She said the company was letting advertisers know when the teens were depressed so they could be served an ad at the best time.
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Meta whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams says company targeted ads at teens based on their ‘emotional state’
[...] She said the company was letting advertisers know when the teens were depressed so they could be served an ad at the best time.
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Have we collectively forgotten that Facebook tested manipulating users emotional states all the way back in 2014?
Where they tested to see if people with depression can be even more depressed if their social media feeds are manipulated to take away positive interaction.
That’s back when I attempted suicide
Wait. If tobacco companies do not exist anymore, then who are making cigarettes?
Or do they mean that Meta, X and Google are producing cigarettes like tobacco companies are doing right now, like with filters or that they are putting warning labels on their products? Because I haven't seen any warning labels or Google cigarettes.
The title is very confusing.
Although I do think Google, X and Meta should have at least 75% of their banner state their platforms are brainrot and spreads misinformation. You know, like modern day tobacco companies have to warn for the risks of using their junk.
Except, you know, tobacco companies are modern day tobacco companies. They were never defeated.
it's an analogy; the author is drawing parallels between them. Obviously Tobacco companies were not "defeated" but they were regulated to hell, and I'm sure the author would say that's what we need to do with social media too.
Yeah, it's crazy how many commenters here are completely missing the point. I should really stop assuming people have any sort of intelligence.
The tobacco industry was monopoly busted, and heavily regulated for 30 years. That’s the point. Yes they still exist, but not like they did in 1970. We should do that to social media. It’s crazy how you missed that point yet harp about intelligence.
It’s crazy how you missed that point yet harp about intelligence.
I'm not sure why you said that. The person you are responding didn't 'miss that point'. They were themselves pointing out that other people have missed it. You are both criticising people for missing the same point.
Muted in the English world. I argue junk food commercials draw a lot of parallels with cigarette commercials of the past. For some reason obesity isn't worth prevention so the advertisements are pretty gross.
Soft drinks. Coca Cola especially really loves to tie emotions and sports/holidays to sugar water.
Well, considering all the tobacco companies entrenched themselves in food companies you're basically right.
It's why foods are addictive, and have very little nutritional value. It's beyond "oh no its full of sugar" it the fact that everything is processed and is full of fake sugar (as an example).
They were never defeated.
When you say "defeated", what exactly do you mean? You mean that they should cease to exist to be considered as such? If that's the case then I would say it's an unrealistic expectation.
I would say that they've been largely contained. If I remember correctly, back in the '50s almost half of the American population used to smoke. The percentage of people smoking has been consistently decreasing over the years thanks to regulation and increased taxation. Tobacco companies are definetly not as influential as they once were.
They won't stop mega corping like they used to, they got supplemented by cars then oil then banks and now tech/pharma
No company will stop attempting to achieve mega corp status in a capitalist environment. Gotta make that line go up and to the right!
You made me notice that a lot of companies learned from tobacco companies not just those XD
I would liken them to the automotive industry. Both have deeply harmed society by isolating people from each other (it sounds counterintuitive, I know). Both have created infrastructure that prioritizes individual consumption over collective well being, restructured daily life around corporate products, and normalized a form of privatized existence that erodes public space, shared culture, and relational life. Just as cars gutted walkable communities and made human scale living subordinate to machines, Big Tech has gutted organic social interaction, subordinating communication and attention to platforms designed for extraction and control. #fuckcars #fuckbigtech
Cave men said the same thing about the horse. They gutted our communal caves and made human scale subordinate to a domesticated animal. #fuckmounts
Don't forget the cycle of buying up all patents and shelving them if they are a threat to their goals. What a future we've wasted.
Getting a dumbphone was one of the best decisions I took in my life. It helps me focus better and read books. I don't actually need the internet with me 24/7. If you really need me, you can call.
Try it. Some people will call you crazy. Just ignore them.
I got an e-ink e-reader in the pocketable form factor of a phone (Bigme Hibreak Color). Instead of doomscrolling social media, I read a couple paragraphs of the Oppenheimer biography. Next I’ll reread Neuromancer. It’s life-changing. 10/10 highly recommended.
ok but like if I don't have music and noise cancelling earbuds I will explode
People tend to interact with technology on a default permit basis, which is partly why they have weather-vane attention spans and obliterated focusing capacity. They're like Pavlov's dog, responding to every notification and ping and service update; and social media is treated as the default use state until something else yells for their attention.
I have notifications denied by default. Notifications are lame and a known privacy threat. No one needs to be bothered because someone responded in a group chat or a new post surfaced on a Lemmy comm or a 'deal alert' got pushed by some marketing dipshit on the other side of the planet. That they exist at all for email is ludicrous. Email is an asychronous protocol - delayed responses are a feature.
Stop giving this stuff attention on demand and start allocating attention windows where it will get seen to. Email that gets in front of your eyes is 99 per cent transaction stubs if you're doing it right; there is no more reason to pay it any attention outside 7pm for 10 or 15 minutes (say). Similar treatment should apply to most messaging to be honest.
I've been telling this to family and friends, apparently they didn't want to agree. At least there is article now. I do think current social media will be looked at in future like tobacco/smoking is currently looked at.
Even though I knew about most of this, I never realized how striking the parallels are.
Thank You for Posting (2025)
Great callback. I haven't thought of Thank You For Smoking in ages.
That is a prescient little film from my teenage years back in earlly 00's. The film was a nice stab at the culture of "spin" and how lobbying was gonna dig us into the hell we are now.
Hmmm, Thank You For Posting would be an actual relevant sequel in the time of endless sequels. Backdropping it with the lobbying for the Turd Reich and the ascension of Fascism and you got something there...
Thank you for reminding me of Thank You For Smoking.
20 years ago, as well
Wow. I don't know why I've never made the parallel before, but yes, this is a good way to explain to people the woes of these companies that can be overlooked in the moment but are painfully clear in hindsight.
Y'all, one of the far-reaching Broligarchy ideas they're hoping emerges from the ashes of the United States is the DAO, decentralized autonomous organization.
Every action in the block chain. They facilitate, and are predicated on, the idea of treating every aspect of life as a social network. Everything you do is recorded. So daily life ends up incentived toward constant, persistent, corralled engagement. The Network State is the term.
The difference is that you can't build a society on the mechanics of the tobacco industry. But you can on a human reaction industry.
Wait till you find out we still have tobacco companies, and they’ve been getting into the vape and weed game this whole time
considering that tobacco companies are still here, it's kind of a weird title
I think that, in 10-20 years, the research around social media addiction will bear out this way, yes. It's wild to me how every time the discussion around regulating social media comes up, most people just kind of ignore its effects on kids' mental health.