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Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy have sat down for a face-to-face talk in the opulent halls of a Vatican basilica to discuss a possible ceasefire, after which the US president accused his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, of not wanting to “stop the war”.

The White House described Trump’s meeting with the Ukrainian leader before Pope Francis’s funeral as “very productive”, while Zelenskyy said on X that the talk with the US president was symbolic and had the “potential to become historic, if we achieve joint results”.

It was the first time that Zelenskyy and Trump had met face to face after a frosty February encounter in the White House where Trump and the US vice-president, JD Vance, berated the Ukrainian leader and accused him of ingratitude for US aid.

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

Russia has a long tradition of espionage.

[–] ef9357@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Everybody plays him, but he’s not smart enough to see it.

[–] BigRigButters@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

lol this dood is such an idiot

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Something odd is happening with the right, seems like they're trying to hedge their bets for blowback.

Trump definitely knew this all along, to say this now seems like damage control.

Then earlier this week Rogan calling out the deportations to El Salvador without a trial, saying it was an overcorrection to the left that has gone too far.

I wonder if the American people will buy it.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Overcorrection to the LEFT???

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

his words not mine but yeah that's what he said

meaning he's over correcting as a response to what the left was doing

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its weirder than that, had someone on lemmy try to convince me that deportations, purity tests and fascism are all far left policies. Its like they're trying to shift all their own shit onto some imaginary other.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a common take that the left are fascists because we …want LGBTQ+ etc to be accepted. Fucking bizarre.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Hey hey, we also want people not to starve or go into horrific debt because of medical issues. Super clear indicators of fascism or something.

[–] BigRigButters@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those are all bidens/obama polices tho

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago

And that's why they're not left

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 92 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's amazing how this man's brain is so feeble that he just fully believes what the last person he met with him tells him.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

I believe that in the medical community this is called Joe Rogan's Disease

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I need to see this play out like a heist movie. Two opposing advisors are battling each other to get their idea in his head for the big speech. They get into some zany hijinks trying to be the last to speak to him. Some real spy vs spy stuff.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Inception of the stupid. Written, Directed and Produced by the Coen Brothers.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 87 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is he seriously just realizing Vlad doesn't want to end the war? I really can’t tell when he’s an idiot or colluding these days

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Vlad wants to end the war. On his terms though, cause he knows he can get it.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With Trump yes his chances have certainly increased. Though the EU looks more willing to help Ukraine than I expected, which is great.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Chances have been looking good for russia. I don't believe Europe has the capacity to deal with russians by themselves, they'd really have to ramp up manufacturing.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In his mind he's ~6' 3", ~230 lbs with an IQ of 150.

He truly thinks that world leaders look up to him and that he's playing everyone else.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you can't tell whether Trump is an idiot, then sorry I can't help you.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

The issue is figuring out whether any given statement is due to stupidity or maliciousness.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

No no he is an idiot but not everything he does is because he’s an idiot.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

tapping me along

Anyone got a trump-to-english conversion for this one?

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you get tapped along, it'll make your covfefe hamberders yippy.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 3 points 13 hours ago
[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I love tesler

“Tapping me along” made me imagine someone tapping a golf ball. Nudging it, but not making a big swing, it could be indicative of a subtle influence.

Trump may not know a lot about a lot, but he spends enough time golfing to potentially use a metaphor from it. On the other hand, I’ve never golfed (except the mini kind), so I could be way off.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Ever see a really well trained dog where all you have to do is tap the spot beside you and they bound over to you and dutifully sit in that spot?

I think maybe he meant "nudging me along"? I imagine Putin there at every step, reassuring Trump that he should just wait and see, that he'll do all work and make Trump look like the big man who negotiated a historic peace deal.

No peace deal means no publicity for the peace deal, so now Trump is getting worried because he tanked the global economy with nothing to show for it.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Scene: DJT standing awkwardly at a table. Beside him, sitting on the floor is Vladimir Putin with his Entire Arm shoved up DJT's ass.

DJT: I'm starting to think Putin might be manipulating me.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Trump should know how to recognize tapping people along, it's one of his signature moves, right up there with tax fraud, stiffing creditors and strategic bankruptcy.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Treason and a riot

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

He promised me a reach around!

[–] BrinkBreaker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder [not to give him any credit] if DJT would be a better president if he were surrounded by actual decent people that were earnest/honest. It feels like it could be in the realm of possibility that he's treating the Ukraine/Russia conflict the way he has simply because the people around him are only giving him a specific narrative surrounding it. Either intentionally, incidentally, due to incompetence or sycophantic attempts to "please" trump.

Maybe this is the first time getting it from Ukraine's point of view, unfiltered.

Doesn't change/nor justify his shitty behavior, but... it makes a kind of sense.

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

That's what his first term was. He either doesn't listen to good advice or doesn't care. Either way, it's still a shitshow.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It wouldn't surprise me. We are a product of our environment, and Trump is a very clear example of that. He tends to mimic and amplify whoever he thinks is the strongest/most powerful around him. He's a LeFou in constant search of a Gaston.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I want to offer a long history of how everyone saw this coming but I think "LOL" is the best response

[–] LarryLurkman@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago
[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

He's a sharp one, the ol' Donny!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Holy shit, he might have finally gotten through to that dunce in some small way.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

The human embodiment of Internet Explorer, everyone.