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Teens have access to vastly more potent cannabis than their parents had at their age. Parents need to understand the risks, including psychosis

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 168 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (18 children)

I worked inpatient psych for a long time, and can tell you first-hand the link between psychosis and cannabis is real. No, this does not mean "if you smoke weed you're going to get psychotic!" What it does mean is that if you're someone with a genetic predisposition for schizophrenia (e.g. you have a known family history) weed is a potential trigger for a psychotic episode. If someone has already developed schizophrenia, smoking weed can make their symptoms worse and more difficult to manage with medications.

80% of people coming through the psych hospital, whatever, I don't care if you smoke weed. Honestly, I wish people would smoke weed rather than use meth, K2, or a bunch of other drugs that fuck people up. But for that subset of people prone to psychotic episodes, the conversation centers around "some people can smoke weed and be fine, and you are not one of those people."

The most common ages for men to develop first episode psychosis are 18-25, and while it's dumb that this article focuses on teenagers, the risk in that age group is genuinely higher. This article really is dumb overall and does not explain any of this well

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 127 points 1 week ago (13 children)

This article blows. “Genetically modifying” cannabis for higher THC content? You mean breeding, like every other plant grown for consumption?

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Beware of the gEneTiC MoDifICaTiOn!!!!!!!!!!

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[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Listen, I tell my countrymen all the time: we want to legalize, but only "low grade* to "mid grade". I.e not high grade. We're kind of strict though, almost dry state. Why?

Skunk and the likes have been bred to maximize THC content at the cost of the CBD content. The problem there being that THC is psychoactive and in strong amounts can even be sort of psychedelic, whereas CBD is an antipsychotic that counteracts the negative effecta THC has.

The bigger nut though - and this is the frustrating part - THC can never actually cause psychosis, but can bring out latent psychotic tendencies or be part and parcel of bringing onset psychosis - but a drunken stooper or even an intense run could do that too.

When it comes to high grade tho: do not fuck around with it. If you've never tried cannabis, make sure you don't get a skunk type strain or anything that is deemed "heavy". It's not necessary anyway, it's just a stupid trend between bros to try to out stone or out high each other. "Ooo, I'm the most high! ha ha ha ha"

It's been an arms race between breeder for decades now regarding maximizing THC content, but let me just say gtfo here with that noise. Give me a working man's spliff any day, thank you very much. We're supposed to function as well.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (20 children)

That’s fine to have your own opinion but don’t restrict my rights to grow the stickiest of the icky. Sometimes I want to roast a fat joint and be functional. Sometimes I just want to sleep without toking for a half hour. One hit shit absolutely has its place, and with accurate labeling, you can be the judge.

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[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Oh no! The GMOz!

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

he had had persistent delusions for more than six months. Sam was fully convinced that the government was following him and constantly surveilling him

That's not a delusion tho.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The government probably is surveilling them.

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/30/this-is-what-we-were-always-scared-of-doge-is-building-a-surveillance-state/

Also, anecdotes are not evidence unless you've got a brain worm.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You know, I'm not really interested in a long anecdote about Sam and his father. It doesn't add any real information.
I had hoped to read about the actual evidence.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The war on drugs has made research into cannabis difficult and compared to alcohol and tobacco, we are practically blind. Legalization has changed this and we should pay attention.

The only thing to match the propaganda of the drug war is the CBD cure-all craze. I think that it's wise to do some basic research so that one day we can have an informed opinion rather than a knee jerk reaction.

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[–] voltaric@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wow they fail basic science. Correlation does not equal causation. More gateway drug scare in its modern form.

[–] x_cell@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 week ago (38 children)

No, they don't "fail basic science". They point out that there is a correlation and we need better studies, but the mere existence of the correlation is worrying, especially considering a lot of recent studies are confirming the link between cannabis and teen psychosis. A lot of the early studies on the harm of cigarettes started similarly. Correlation between lung cancer and smoking tobacco doesn't imply causation, but it's one hell of an alarm bell.

The author of the article themselves doesn't say cannabis is a gateway drug and even recognizes that asking people to just not use it isn't realistic.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My concern is another Reefer Madness type of propaganda campaign. We need legit, replicable and replicated studies. I don't indulge anymore, for several reasons. Most were practical but also unrelated to health/employment.

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[–] voltaric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They fail to explore systemic correlations and hyperfocus on cannabis. I am claiming they are repeating reactionary history instead of systemic analysis. Focusing on what is wrong with the individual rather than the system that bore them.

The article is an opinion as stated at the bottom.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're gonna get tired of repeating this in about, oh, 20 years.

I'm speaking from experience.

You're entirely correct, just to be clear. You're just gonna get tired of repeating it.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For me it’s real simple: I talk to my kids about drug use and its negative impact on their growing minds and bodies. Like any growing organism, they need good food, fresh air, plenty of water, and exercise. Smoking, drinking, and drugs do not provide any of that, and all I ask of them is to wait until they are older.

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 6 points 1 week ago

Still true for adults tho

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[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm wondering about dosage here, really. As a kid, I smoked weed like maybe once a week but I knew kids who were constantly high all day, every day. We called them "permafried" and some even self-identified that way as a matter of pride.

Hopefully, with further study and research, we can get more information about the actual risk to teens with a variety of usage patterns. Then it's a matter of education so that they're aware of the risk before they're presented with the choice to smoke.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The problem is, a bunch of people with very limited drug experience sharing their anecdotal stories isn't evidence. It's just a story.

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[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This shouldn’t be controversial. It’s been known for about a decade now if not longer.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember not all studies on the health effects of substance use are there to advocate that the substance be made illegal. Smoking as a example is still around and there are countless studies available to the public to make informed decisions.

Substance use should be up to the individual like all choices that can effect you directly, "my body my choice" so to say. All individuals should have access to all knowledge available freely and without prejudice.

Studies on cannabis use becoming more common should be seen as a good thing, as cannabis use has become less taboo and thus easier to study without researcher receiving backlash.

Now you may disagree with some studies, and that is your right. But to advocate against studies related to the substance IMO at least is hypocritical, as it advocates against the very thing that made the substance legal.

I am a non-smoker and have not tried cannabis, but believe people should have the freedom to choose

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Everybody should use a flower vaporizer like G Pen. Clean hits, low dose, and none of the crap that’s in concentrates.

Compared to what I even had when I was a kid as a millennial, these vape pens are wild. Dabbing all the time. It’s like casually taking shots of alcohol. There is such thing as marijuana abuse and even addiction.

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