this post was submitted on 05 May 2025
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[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It says a lot about linux that them dropping support for an over 20 year old CPU is a big anouncement

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's apparently the Pentium 1 and older, so those chips were discontinued in 1999. Almost 26 years old.

Ditching i686 could be a problem for people running 32-bit stuff on modern hardware, though. I expect that'll hang around for a while yet.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

There were still new 486 compatible chips being released up until about 2010.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex86

They released a 486sx (no FPU) in 2007.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

To be clear, you still still be able to run 32 bit binaries on a 64 bit kernel. So, there will be no more kernel support for Pentium (in 5 years or more) but you will still run i686 userland code. I do not see this changing for a very long time.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For.hardware that old you can probably just use an older kernel

[–] groche@lemmy.rochegmr.com 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or a more old hardware friendly system like netBSD

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

NetBSD does not support 386 anymore either and I think NetBSD requires an FPU. With its x87 emulator, it may be that Linux has been more hardware friendly in this case.

Here is a Linux for 486 that runs in 8 MB (current kernel, same userland as Alpine Linux): https://github.com/marmolak/gray486linux/commits/master/

There will still be LTS kernels supporting 486 in Linux until 2030 or later. The oldest kernel currently still getting updates at kernel.org is a version from 2019.

Outside the official kernel project, distros like Ubuntu and RHEL offer 10 years of support. So, they will be dropping security updates for these kernels for even longer.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No really as stuff stops getting security updates

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

You're probably not using anything that old for serious work outside controlling industrial machines or something but even then you cam either air gap it or use a firewall

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Great, now I'll have up """upgrade""" my 486 to W11, ffs.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago

What's next? TPM requirement? ~/s~

this is really it for strongbad and his compy