As a homelabber, I finally got around to installing it a few months back. I do have some wish list items that seem like common sense things that have been in the works for years, but I do love it compared to the horror of running everything from my main desktop and just never turning it off.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Apparently according to the forums there are some common sense things that they should have been doing for years and are intentionally not doing.

Kinda makes sense, it technically works but you’ll think about how much less teeth pulling you had to do in ESX all the time. I know I did

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are there any examples you can point me to for this? I've always found esxi the "teeth pulling" one and would like to see some arguments otherwise.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sure, they have a nag screen if you don’t do their corporate update subscription, and you need to manually run a Linux command to get rid of it. You have to manually go look for the update URL to do updates in-band and configure it. After updating the upgrade will sometimes not change the UI to show the update.

By default, an Ubuntu VM will be selected with a GPU or CPU type that prevents it from booting.

It’s a million little small things but it adds up and you sigh and long for ESX just a bit more every time, because you can unfortunately really tell the design difference between enthusiasts and people who make serious IT products

All they have to do is little fixes to make things be smooth but they don’t and it’s annoying sometimes

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks for your candor. Not sure I agree with these issues... but I guess that's why I've never really had a problem with Proxmox.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The nag screen only happens without a subscription.

I'm pretty sure the no-subscription repo can be enabled with a few clicks in the UI. I haven't experienced any issues with updates.

I haven't seen it misconfigure Ubuntu VMs either, but maybe I haven't tried one.

All in all, if those are your only complaints, it sounds pretty solid to me.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah I never said it wasn’t good or didn’t work. It’s just held back from being fantastic by a bunch of stupid design decisions that from what I’ve heard are based on dev feelings instead of how the product is actually used

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm using Proxmox, but I've read great things about incus. Any thoughts?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

It's designed for container orchestration, I think. I tried setting up a regular VM and it wasn't smooth.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 week ago

Broadcom are dicks.

Similarly, users online have reported receiving cease-and-desist letters even though they haven't issued updates since losing VMware support. One user on Spiceworks’ community forum reported receiving such a letter even though they migrated off of VMware and to Proxmox.

I switched to proxmox last summer and found it quite nice.

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know you are a lovely business when your customers don't use you because they like your product but rather because they feel trapped.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

There are many options. the money you send braodcomm would make the option source options really good in not long. But that means a vision and investment for the future.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

[–] albert180@piefed.social 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Some customers of Members IT Group, a managed services provider (MSP) in Canada, have received this letter, despite not receiving VMware updates since their support contracts expired, CTO Dean Colpitts told Ars. One customer, he said, received a letter six days after their support contract expired.

They will for sure push an automatic update after this and sue.

The ORACLE Way

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Oh ORACLE

One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dont see how that could be legal.

[–] albert180@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Microsoft did label a Windows Server Upgrade accidentally as a security patch once, causing Servers to upgrade, thus requiring a new license

https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/08/windows_2025_surprise_install/

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thats a bit heavy handed of Broadcom. But it shouldn't be a shock.

With them suing att and Siemens about licensing stuff no doubt the are going to go after smaller orgs too hoping the thread of the suit will force them to buy licensing.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am confused. How can you accidentally push a patch you have no license to acquire?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

You can't. This is a scare tactic.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 1 week ago

These licensing deals are cancer. Just parasites trying to leech lol

Fuck em. Foss as much as possible, donate if you got cash to spare. Never pay your oppressors folks!

[–] bajabound@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Sounds like Kaseya should look into purchasing Broadcom. Their strategies seem to align.