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I remember a time when visiting a website that opens a javacript dialog box asking for your name so the message "hi " could be displayed was baulked at.

Why does signal want a phone number to register? Is there a better alternative?

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[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago

Privacy is not necessarily anonymity. Signal uses a phone number to prevent spam and DDOS attacks on their network. Session doesn't do this and got wrecked by DDOS attacks to the point where most of the major groups are pretty much dead.

Use Signal to talk to people you know. That's what it's for. You don't use it for anonymous chats.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

SimpleX is coming nicely along. Should be good to switch next year once they got their desktop apps polished up

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Session is what you want. But you have to directly shares each others public keys to connect

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Is there a quick explanation of what signal actually does? I don't understand the need for a phone number either. Jami doesn't ask for a phone number. It has other deficiencies that make me not want to use it, but those are technical rather than policy, more or less. Similarly, irc (I'm luddite enough to still be using it) doesn't ask for a phone number either. So this is all suspicious. There are a bunch of other things like this too (Element, Matrix, etc.) that I haven't looked into and tbh I don't understand why they exist.

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[–] M154nthr0p3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I think you can use a pay phone to sign up.

[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (32 children)

Jami.net

Ignore the comment saying signal is "end to end encrypted" "private" etc They are simply stuck in a delusional state where they try to convince themselves that signal is the best option so they can continue using it. Nothing is private if it isn't fully libre because you never know what the proprietary code is doing. The signal protocol itself has its source code released, and the encryption and security code is publicly available, but the signal Foundation has stated that it uses both free code and proprietary code. Their reason is UI, but it's hard to make sure whatever proprietary code is being used for because you simply can't see it. As GNU puts it: "You're walking in a pitch black cave". Jami is fully libre and is a GNU project. You don't even need any phone number!

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