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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. Fuck AI
  2. This judge’s point is absolutely true:

"You have companies using copyright-protected material to create a product that is capable of producing an infinite number of competing products," Chhabria said. "You are dramatically changing, you might even say obliterating, the market for that person's work, and you're saying that you don't even have to pay a license to that person."

  1. AI apologists’ response to that will invariably be “but it’s sampling from millions of people at once, not just that one person”, which always sounds like the fractions-of-a-penny scene
  2. Fuck copyright
  3. A ruling against fair use for AI will almost certainly deal collateral damage to perfectly innocuous scraping projects like linguistic analysis. Even despite their acknowledgement of the issue:

To prevent both harms, the Copyright Office expects that some AI training will be deemed fair use, such as training viewed as transformative, because resulting models don't compete with creative works. Those uses threaten no market harm but rather solve a societal need, such as language models translating texts, moderating content, or correcting grammar. Or in the case of audio models, technology that helps producers clean up unwanted distortion might be fair use, where models that generate songs in the style of popular artists might not, the office opined.

  1. We really need to regulate against AI — right now — but doing it through copyright might be worse than not doing it at all
[–] 30p87@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah yes. Replacing people that criticize your pals money making machines. What next, replace private people that you just don't like?

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

Is Disney no longer a "pal", or did it stop making money?

How Mickey Mouse Evades the Public Domain

[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

That's crazy talk. You should put that idea on ICE.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

All use is fair use. Copyright should not exist.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Copyright was created to solve a real problem back then and definitely has merit.

However, the behemoth modern copyright has morphed into does need to be put to pasture; it no longer protects, but weponized by gatekeepers.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

Back when copyright was created, it had a fixed term of 14 years.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 15 points 1 day ago

Don't hold dystopian societies to utopian standards. Yes copyright sucks, and if it was gone things might be better. But also if it was gone corpos might just run more wild than they do now.

[–] aeroplayne@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

We all have to play by these damn rules.

These silicon valley fuckers are getting away with what would get a library shut down. Or you and I jailed on a peer to peer network. The only difference is they're making a way bigger profit to put you out of a job.

[–] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but only if everyone is paid a living wage, aka universal basic income.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

As explained by Brian Eno in this 3 minute video.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean just force them to train on copyleft content only. That solves the problem.

Dont have enough copyleft content? Let's make more.