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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Fascism always has enemies that are simultaneously so weak that they will be easily defeated by fascist superiority ... while also being terribly oppressive that it will take a great battle to overthrow the powerful enemies of fascism

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well put. Also works with the classic trope of lazy but simultaneously job stealing immigrants

[–] FLP22012005@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you want to keep the fiction up, you need to keep imagining additional things: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RequiredSecondaryPowers.

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

There's no coming back once I click on that link

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[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've heard something similar for conspiracy theories also.

NASA is at the same time an agency with enough advanced technology and resources that they were able to fool the entire world for a several-day-long broadcast of a fake moon landing, while also being too feeble and pathetic to have actually gone to the moon.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Then they snuck all the stuff they said they had on the moon to the moon before the other nations got there to look.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"The enemy is massing their military near our border, which is a threat to us! We can defeat their military easily of course, they are disorganised and weak. But their movements are hostile and threatening to us! So we must preemptively attack them! Not because we need the element of surprise, but because we want to demonstrate our superior military tactics! This will be a quick 3-day special military operation. Because they are weak and we are strong but they are an existential threat to us."

[–] CaptainCodeine@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Umberto Eco - Ur-Fascism

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

Fascism requires a group of others to persecute. Ideally, that group would be very small (as a percentage of the overall population) and already somewhat marginalized/"different".
So here we are.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bigots are too weak to participate in society. They should be banned.

[–] B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Being bigoted is literally a skill issue. People with less money, status, or loved ones are more likely to hold bigoted views. Even in competitive online games higher ranks is less bigots

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It seems that their imagined enemy is both too strong and too weak... Jeez, where have I heard that before?

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The quantum immigrant that is both stealing jobs from Americans while simultaneously nothing more than a drain on welfare?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF, Pete Hegseth also doesn't want cis-women in the military.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 24 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I agree with the sentiment being discussed here, but the argument being peddled isn't that they are too strong for sports, it's that they are too strong for womens sports, like women are so weak and their sports are a joke. The current right wing arseholes in the US are also claiming that women shouldn't be in the military. This nonsense is layers of bigotry deep.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You aren't really refuting the conundrum presented by the woman. She is pointing out the same thing you are, but I feel like you're not getting the point.

Trans women are too strong to be in women's sports, implying they are stronger than cis women. Yet simultaneously being told they are too weak to be in the army, something that they aren't even saying of cis women, implying that trans women are weaker than cis women.

The woman in the interview is correctly pointing out the hypocrisy here to highlight that it's not logical, it's just bigotry.

[–] riot@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I feel like their hypocrisy and transphobia can be pointed out even simpler by:

"No!! You can't be in women's sports, because you are a man!!"
and
"No!! You can't be in the military, because you're not... a... man...?"

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[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Isn’t it cuz they aren’t “mentally fit”?

Which still isnt a good excuse to be a bigot, you can be non trans and less mentally fit than a trans person yet allowed in the military. I hate this country sometimes

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[–] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All three of those dudes are trying to hide their boners.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

Excellent point

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if ex military trans want to kick off the revolution, they will have earned my respect.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Respect shouldn't have to be earned, it should be the default to respect everyone. It is reasonable for trust or admiration to be earned, but not respect.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are two distinct kinds of respect: for the human being (respect the human rights) and for the person (respect what that person does).

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